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To: FLT-bird; jeffersondem
What I provided was ACCURATE.

Shirley you don’t mean to insist that the “quote” you provided was the actual words of Abraham Lincoln. Truth matters, guy. You are practiced in the Lost Causer art of deception. May I suggest that you accidentally quoted a misquote (accurately)? Consider your sources, dude.

It said “Slaves” instead of “their fugitives” when by “their fugitives” it was clear he was talking about “slaves”. There was no need to go into a long explanation about that.

I don’t disagree that “their fugitives” obviously referred to colored people in bondage (also known as Slaves) who had escaped their masters and run to a free state . It is not your place to put words in Lincoln’s mouth and then attribute them to him. But what the political speech, as part of the Lincoln/Douglas Debates, addressed in the passage in question, was a hypothetical. Please read the passage above the one in question, conveniently provided by your fellow Lost Causer, J.Effersondem. It said “if”, and then is followed by “I would”. Your “quote” seems to change “I would” into “I will”, without the “if” part. Perhaps, if Jeffersondem would be so kind (it appears he has the proper text handy) he can provide you with the actually accurate text and context. Lost Causer answer Lost Causer.

675 posted on 07/01/2018 1:26:56 PM PDT by HandyDandy (This space intentionally left blank.)
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To: HandyDandy

Shirley you don’t mean to insist that the “quote” you provided was the actual words of Abraham Lincoln. Truth matters, guy. You are practiced in the Lost Causer art of deception. May I suggest that you accidentally quoted a misquote (accurately)? Consider your sources, dude.

Shirley the gist of the quote was accurate. Yes it contextualized “their fugitives” to “slaves” when by saying “their fugitives” what he meant was “slaves”. You are practiced in the PC Revisionist art of dissembling. The quote I cited was accurate. In no way, shape or form did I give the reader a false impression as to what Lincoln actually said.


I don’t disagree that “their fugitives” obviously referred to colored people in bondage (also known as Slaves) who had escaped their masters and run to a free state . It is not your place to put words in Lincoln’s mouth and then attribute them to him. But what the political speech, as part of the Lincoln/Douglas Debates, addressed in the passage in question, was a hypothetical. Please read the passage above the one in question, conveniently provided by your fellow Lost Causer, J.Effersondem. It said “if”, and then is followed by “I would”. Your “quote” seems to change “I would” into “I will”, without the “if” part. Perhaps, if Jeffersondem would be so kind (it appears he has the proper text handy) he can provide you with the actually accurate text and context. Lost Causer answer Lost Causer.

Criminy! Changing “their fugitives” to “slaves” when that is EXACTLY what he meant beyond any dispute is not deceptive. This is an entirely semantic argument. His position was that he supported fugitive slave legislation just as he supported keeping slavery just as he supported providing express protections of slavery via a constitutional amendment. None of these were unusual positions to take at the time. Its just uncomfortable for Lincoln cultists and PC Revisionists to admit those were his positions because they are deeply emotionally invested in the myth of the virtuous North.


679 posted on 07/01/2018 2:00:01 PM PDT by FLT-bird
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