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To: Artemis Webb

Prohibition of Alcohol is a case study in the cherry picking and twisting of statistics. A case study in fake news.

As a direct result of 13 years of Prohibition, alcohol use declined bigly. With it, cirrhosis of the liver and other alcohol related diseases and deaths dropped dramatically. Domestic violence dropped bigly.

The Al Capone style murders existed in the US, and especially in Chicago, long before prohibition and long after it ended.

In 1968 a Chicago street gang murdered 7 people on my block alone. Those murders involved solely money and control of extortion of money. There was no alcohol or drugs involved in any of them.

Prohibition did not cause an increase in crime. What it did was give J Edgar Hoover the opportunity to build a very political FBI.

I am amused at those who think the politicization of the FBI is something new. I read the FBI (and local police) reports on those who, like me, were investigated prior to draft into the Army in the 64-67 era. The FBI was extremely political back then, doing favors for both elected and unelected power brokers.

Currently alcohol is the #1 correlation in gun death and injury, both suicide , murder and accidental. Alcohol is the #1 correlation in knife death and injury, in boating, RV, snomobile, skiing and recreational tragedies. Alcohol is the #1 correlation in domestic violence, in unwanted pregnancy, in rape. Across the board, Alcohol is the #1 correlation with social problems in American society.

I don’t have the solution. But let’s be honest about the problem. Guns don’t kill people; People kill people... mostly people who have been drinking kill people.


34 posted on 06/23/2018 3:45:51 PM PDT by spintreebob
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To: spintreebob

Certainly you are free to present the unpicked cherry tree, but it just seems you’ve picked some sour grapes instead.

To handwave that “oh, crime existed” is to visibly dodge the question of its magnitude and severity and causes of involvement.


39 posted on 06/23/2018 3:50:15 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Tryin' hard to win the No-Bull Prize.)
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To: spintreebob
Prohibition did not cause an increase in crime.

False. The rest of your unsupported claims I will ignore.

"America had experienced a gradual decline in the rate of serious crimes over much of the 19th and early 20th centuries. That trend was unintentionally reversed by the efforts of the Prohibition movement. The homicide rate in large cities increased from 5.6 per 100,000 population during the first decade of the century to 8.4 during the second decade when the Harrison Narcotics Act, a wave of state alcohol prohibitions, and World War I alcohol restrictions were enacted. The homicide rate increased to 10 per 100,000 population during the 1920s, a 78 percent increase over the pre-Prohibition period." - https://object.cato.org/sites/cato.org/files/pubs/pdf/pa157.pdf

54 posted on 06/23/2018 4:00:16 PM PDT by NobleFree ("law is often but the tyrant's will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual")
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