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To: rodguy911
I'm still confused as to what grows this storm.

Chalk it up to the Trump Hurricane Machine.

Thanks for your valuable local info. The 0500 NHC Discussion reports the storm has, indeed, developed some tropical characteristics.

Great to have you back for another episode of the silly season!

60 posted on 05/27/2018 3:25:06 AM PDT by NautiNurse (Do not make me pay Ferrari prices for Chevy Vega health insurance.)
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To: NautiNurse
Thanks NN.
We are privileged to have you lead the way year after year. The talent you have here on this thread is second to none.
61 posted on 05/27/2018 4:03:20 AM PDT by rodguy911 (Home of the free because of the brave! MAGA!!)
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To: NautiNurse
I was confused about the Subtropical aspect, found this helpful:

Tropical, subtropical, extratropical?

It is often difficult to tell from looking at forecast model data whether a low that is expected to develop near the U.S. coast will be tropical, subtropical, or extratropical. The difference is important, since tropical systems have the potential to quickly grow into hurricanes, while extratropical or subtropical storms do not. So, here's a quick meteorology lesson on the normal progression one sees from extratropical cyclone, to subtropical cyclone, to tropical cyclone.

1. An extratropical cyclone forms. Extratropical cyclones have cold air at their core, and derive their energy from the release of potential energy when cold and warm air masses interact. These storms always have one or more fronts connected to them, and can occur over land or ocean. An extratropical cyclone can have winds as weak as a tropical depression, or as strong as a hurricane. Examples of extratropical cyclones include blizzards, Nor'easters, and the ordinary low pressure systems that give the continents at mid-latitudes much of their precipitation.

2. If the waters under the extratropical cyclone are at least 21C (70F), thunderstorm activity will gradually build inside the storm and moisten and warm the lower levels. Over time, the core of the storm may gradually go from cold to warm, and the storm will start getting some of its energy from "latent heat", which is the energy released when water vapor that has evaporated from warm ocean waters condenses into liquid water. Latent heat is what powers tropical cyclones. At this point, the storm is called subtropical. If the winds are already more than 39 mph (as happened in the case 2007's Subtropical Storm Andrea), it is called a subtropical storm. If the winds are less than 39 mph, then it is called a subtropical depression. So, you don't need to start with a subtropical depression in order to get a subtropical storm.

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62 posted on 05/27/2018 5:28:46 AM PDT by zzeeman ("We can evade reality, but we cannot evade the consequences of evading reality.")
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