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Dem Sen Warner: No ‘Single Piece of Legislation’ Would Have Stopped TX School Shooting
brietbart ^ | 05/20/2018 | Pam Key

Posted on 05/21/2018 5:58:25 AM PDT by ChicagoConservative27

Sunday on CNN’s “State of the Union,” Sen. Mark Warner (D-VA) said there was not “a single piece of legislation” that would have prevented the recent school shooting in Texas.

Warner said, “I don’t think there’s a single piece of legislation, but there’s a series of actions. Are there things we can do that would improve the safety of our schools? Absolutely.”

He continued, “Should there be more mental health counseling for troubled teens, the number of the incidents caused by young men time and time again? Absolutely. Making sure people are safer with their own firearms? Absolutely.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: 115th; banglist; guns; markwarner; schoolshootings; shooting; texas
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To: GMMC0987
They always demand that we do “something”. Isn’t banning gun free zones something?

Replacing the zones with “Would Be Murderers Will Be Shot On Sight” zones is doing something.

21 posted on 05/21/2018 6:57:07 AM PDT by immadashell (Save Innocent Lives - ban gun free zones)
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To: Qwackertoo

“The right way by hardening the target.”

Recess? Football games? School bus stops?

If someone just wants to kill people before they are killed themselves, what prevents them from walking up and shooting 20 people standing in a line?

I think the depressing truth is that a determined, suicidal killer who wants to kill strangers is very hard to stop.


22 posted on 05/21/2018 7:17:09 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools)
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To: precisionshootist

And we all know teens cannot find out the combination of a lock, or find the keys to bypass the lock when the batteries fail, etc. And no teen can go at the safe with an axe to bust it open while the parents are at work!

A kid with regular access to his parent’s room can try 1000 combinations over just a few days. All it takes is patience, determination, and some time alone.


23 posted on 05/21/2018 7:20:52 AM PDT by Mr Rogers (Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools)
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To: ChicagoConservative27

Tens of thousands of new laws to regulate and prohibit every facet of human freedom is what we need, right? Right???


24 posted on 05/21/2018 7:21:44 AM PDT by null and void (Urban "food deserts," are caused by "climate change" in urban customers' attitudes (H/T niteowl77))
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To: Mr Rogers

True enough but hardening the greater target has become a necessity. No more shooting fish in a barrel.

Same could be done with waiting screening lines @ TSA. Much damage and lives could be taken . . . but the screening is a good deterrent so far except in what one incident in Belgium and then the killer in Ft. Lauderdale who got his gun out of his checked bag and shot the place up. Probably other exceptions but those two come to mind.


25 posted on 05/21/2018 7:22:05 AM PDT by Qwackertoo (Worst 8 years ever, First Affirmative Action President, I hope those who did this to us SUFFER MOST!)
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To: Mr Rogers

And recess . . . my kids are just turned 21 and 24 and they didn’t have recess since at least 2nd grade.


26 posted on 05/21/2018 7:23:30 AM PDT by Qwackertoo (Worst 8 years ever, First Affirmative Action President, I hope those who did this to us SUFFER MOST!)
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To: Qwackertoo
Our kids safety are worth it. It has become an epidemic

We have seen a couple of deranged young people commit mass murder for their own twisted reasons. The most recent case may well have been inspired by the publicity and response to the earlier case in Florida, and perhaps by the murderer in Canada who used his car to strike down young women. While each of these events is horrible, and a great tragedy for the families and friends of the victims, in comparison to the overall rate of unexpected deaths of teenagers they are not an "epidemic".

What is an epidemic is the rapid growth in the number of teenagers killed by drug overdoses, and the number of teenagers killed by distracted teen drivers. Anyone talking about legislation or government action should focus on the largest killers of teenagers first. And then focus on teenage gang members who kill each other and bystanders.

The students from Parkland have such a narrow view of society that they only care about their own political goals. They aren't doing a thing to save their fellow teenagers dying from drug overdoses, preventable car crashes, and inner city gang violence.

27 posted on 05/21/2018 7:25:32 AM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: freeandfreezing

16 so far this year. Some multiple some double digits. Seems out of control to me.

Deaths from drugs is voluntary. So is distracted driving unless they kill innocents.

Either arming teachers, adding MORE armed security personnel AND hardening the targets with necessary equipment to detect weapons.


28 posted on 05/21/2018 7:32:25 AM PDT by Qwackertoo (Worst 8 years ever, First Affirmative Action President, I hope those who did this to us SUFFER MOST!)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
Armed security in the schools.

Not really. There was armed security in the school. The officer apparently engaged the shooter, getting hit himself in the process which prevented further carnage.

But in this kind of attack the murderer has the initial advantage, and before the security team can respond lives may be lost even when armed security is present.

Of course screening at an entry point could have protected students in the school, but the screening point itself could become the target, or the killer could choose to launch his attack elsewhere.

Armed security is a great idea everywhere, but nobody should expect security teams to stop every attack. Determined attackers can penetrate even highly secured situations.

29 posted on 05/21/2018 7:33:29 AM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: ChicagoConservative27
Dem Sen Warner: No ‘Single Piece of Legislation’ Would Have Stopped TX School Shooting

"No amount" of legislation would have stopped TX school shooting.

Our culture applauds killing babies in the womb by the millions. Christians and Christian values have been demonized in our schools and institutions - and replaced with godless relativism. Violence of every sort permeates our media, movies and airwaves. We equate freedom with license and make no judgement as to what constitutes evil - because everything is relative - there are no absolutes. Newer generations have been raised to believe that they are victims and someone needs to pay. The professional and celebrity race hustlers, Christ haters, pervert lovers, USA haters - in our schools, media and government have been happy to indoctrinate our children.

Guns are not the problem. Our godless culture is.

30 posted on 05/21/2018 7:38:53 AM PDT by JesusIsLord
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To: Qwackertoo
So is distracted driving unless they kill innocents.

Like the passengers?

CDC statistics don't isolate teenagers, their groupings are 10-14 years and 15-24 years of age. But a quick glance at them shows how many young people die from violence or accidents.

Assuming the rate of school shootings continues through the year, roughly 80 times as many teenagers will die from homicides other than school shootings. So as a teenager it looks like if you are going to get murdered by being shot, it is 80 times more likely that it won't be as a part of a school shooting.

31 posted on 05/21/2018 7:43:59 AM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: Pearls Before Swine

You are no doubt correct. Perhaps we need legislation that bans “loners” from coming to school, or having the right to own a weapon. After all, how many times are we told the killing was committed by a “loner.” Of course, the question is who decides who is a “loner.” On that score, I am certain we can trust this to academia.


32 posted on 05/21/2018 7:59:28 AM PDT by JGPhila
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To: Mr Rogers

Nobody talks anymore about the Sutherland Springs, Texas, church massacre. While schools are the most prominent target, these mass slaughters have happened in other places too.

I don’t recall details offhand, and have to get to work now, but there was an attack at a shopping mall in Minnesota, another attack at a mall in Omaha, Nebraska, area, off the top of my head. How can we harden other soft targets?


33 posted on 05/21/2018 7:59:45 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: JGPhila

Yes indeed, who is a “loner”? I was a shy quiet kid. Would I have been targeted by such criteria? Would such identification prevent a massacre?


34 posted on 05/21/2018 8:02:05 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: freeandfreezing

Passengers or another car and its occupants.

Kids should be relatively SAFE in school.

No we can’t make them safe everywhere all the time but school should be safe and basically it comes down to money. Should we spend it? Yes.

As to blue cities or states that won’t do it . . . with armed teachers or security . . . when the shootings stop in those cities and states that implement . . . then parents will eventually demand it in blue locales too.

That said, I’m thankful my kids are DONE with public schools, one more year and will be done with public university too.


35 posted on 05/21/2018 8:23:10 AM PDT by Qwackertoo (Worst 8 years ever, First Affirmative Action President, I hope those who did this to us SUFFER MOST!)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Yes, the three that come to mind are Charleston, SC . . . somewhere in Tennessee and then Texas.

And years and years ago, in the 2000’s . . . a church in Fort Worth TX on a Wednesday night.


36 posted on 05/21/2018 8:26:09 AM PDT by Qwackertoo (Worst 8 years ever, First Affirmative Action President, I hope those who did this to us SUFFER MOST!)
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To: Qwackertoo
Kids should be relatively SAFE in school.

Of course. And I think we all agree that commonsense approaches to school safety include having armed security when necessary, allowing the concealed carry of firearms on school property by adults, or at least school employees, and setting up non-intrusive systems to try to get help for severely disturbed students.

But when it comes to money, effort, and saving lives, efforts to cut drug use, improve teenage driver safety, and reduce gang related violence will save far more young lives.

37 posted on 05/21/2018 9:21:30 AM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: ealgeone

School boards are responsible for allowing the slaughter in our schools.


38 posted on 05/21/2018 11:39:05 AM PDT by abclily
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To: All

Warner is a democrat slime ball, but gets this right.

We are being propagandized by MSM right now, they are saying there have been 16/18 school shootings in the last year in the US. I even hear that 16 number on Fox. That number includes student suicides, firearms firing in a parking lot and other bogus things. The real number of school shootings is 4. These are events like parkland and Santa Fe where shooters have shot multiple people at schools.


39 posted on 05/22/2018 5:03:24 AM PDT by Freedom_2_ADM
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