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To: Kaslin
Sometime ago I tried to tackle the issue of "Snowflakes" analytically over at Hannity Forums and posted a thread I called "A Word About Snowflakes".

This was an honest attempt to categorize and differentiate "Snowflakes" as they appeared in society and in the events of the world, not an effort to slur anyone but a thesis based in proper observation.

What I soon discovered is that conservatives like myself aren't really allowed to define words or phrases according to observations but that the Left seems to reserve to itself alone the privilege of controlling the language and the definitions used because that is a vital tool used by them for their power and their advancement.

By introducing definition of "Snowflake" that only sought to set forth and limit the idea of who was a "Snowflake" to people evidencing certain qualities I was in fact guilt of trying to not let progressives use the word freely as a club against anyone they wanted to ... and that just would NOT do!

As a consequence of the effort to dismiss my efforts a number of individual progressives at Hannity latched onto a view that a "Snowflake" was really someone willing to argue against progressives no matter if they were even acting offended. Thus they essentially reduced the desire to seriously discuss views contrary to progressivism to form of offended behavior.

Indeed, one of the individuals who would go on to use "Snowflake" most aggressively against people who just disagreed with him posted: "Hey look! I made up a definition of people I disagree with. It's truth now."

Here is that thread's OP:



A Word About Snowflakes



Dane-Geld (by Kipling)

IT is always a temptation to an armed and agile nation
To call upon a neighbour and to say:--
"We invaded you last night--we are quite prepared to fight,
Unless you pay us cash to go away."

And that is called asking for Dane-geld,
And the people who ask it explain
That you've only to pay 'em the Dane-geld
And then you'll get rid of the Dane!

It is always a temptation to a rich and lazy nation,
To puff and look important and to say:--
"Though we know we should defeat you, we have not the time to meet you.
We will therefore pay you cash to go away."

And that is called paying the Dane-geld;
But we've proved it again and again,
That if once you have paid him the Dane-geld
You never get rid of the Dane.

It is wrong to put temptation in the path of any nation,
For fear they should succumb and go astray;
So when you are requested to pay up or be molested,
You will find it better policy to say:--

"We never pay any-one Dane-geld,
Nor matter how trifling the cost;
For the end of that game is oppression and shame,
And the nation that plays it is lost!"



Snowflakes are a bit like the Danes of old in this way: if you pay the wages they demand, no matter how trifling the cost may seem, they NEVER GO AWAY.

They only demand more, only tear down more, only grow bolder.

This works the same no matter if you are dealing with what I term a “Type 1 Snowflake” — someone like those seen getting weepy on college campuses, retiring to safe spaces and needing time off from class because something bad happened — or a “Type 2 Snowflake” — the sort that, like Islamist, actively seeks out being offended as a pretext to advancing their own agenda. Make deals with either, even tolerate them, and they seek to expand their territory ... either to expand their safe spaces so that they will never again be offended -- either personally or by proxy of how they imagine others might be offended makes no difference -- or to take away your place so that ultimately there will be no place left for you.

These may seem the same, and practically speaking they are functionally the same and both operate in supremacist fashion, but they are not for reasons relating to what else separates what I call a Type 1 from a Type 2.

Examples...

A true Type 1 Snowflake will NOT hang around a forum where different opinions are expressed. They prefer echo chambers, safe spaces and need hugs.

A Type 2 Snowflake may go onto such forums and they seek to silence you wherever you are ... you aren't allowed to have places for even debate among differing views. It isn’t just that they dislike your views, or even that they consider your views to be fundamentally disordered, but that you have a context within which you can express your views are not in accordance to their rules.

A Type 1 Snowflake is not just easily offended but they are also easily offended by proxy, as explained above. That said, their offense may be emotional, even irrational, but it is often honestly felt. That doesn’t make it a good offense, or one that should be tolerated, but it does mean that they aren’t usually faking.

A Type 2 Snowflake ... may be telling the truth about being offended, they may not be telling the truth. They’ve got some other fish to fry and the offense is a pretext for heating up the coals.

A Type 1 Snowflake is fragile. That doesn’t mean that they are the Fluttershys of any crowd, for given sufficient echo chamber effect and anger they can act quite bold. Rather it means that their efforts to eliminate whatever offends them, even to the point of acting as bad as the worst “fascists” they often say they hate, is about their security.

A Type 2 Snowflake is tough. They have a war-face and are coming to take whatever folks say isn't theirs.

A Type 1 Snowflake’s aversion to bad things may, and presently is, causing them to seek to remove evidence of the past that offends them, essentially to forget that past itself.

A Type 2 Snowflake does the same to remove YOUR past, good and bad, so that you will be weakened and unable to resist further encroachments.

Similarly, a Type 1 Snowflake will believe that bad people cause all these offenses.

While a Type 2 Snowflake is looking for a time when whatever other folks may want, they will be under the boot and dealt with if they get uppity. Here I might bring up discussions by Bill Ayers’ bunch about killing millions of Americans who couldn't be reeducated to be servile commies after the revolution.

In essence Type 1s are those who are easily swayed by every breeze of popular opinion, group thinkers and group feelers, they are pathetic ... or would be if they were not so easily mobilized and used by Type 2s.

It’s not entirely unlike how I, on another forum, recently described the two kinds of cultural Marxist to a fellow who passes the Duck Test for same. The many who are indoctrinated, not educated, are those whose function is to be led about by the few who have philosophy and not just ideology. I pointed out that the “many” have been easily appropriated by Islamist through the emotionally charged idea of Islamophobia and that one way for a cultural Marxist to distinguish which kind he was is: “If you eagerly defend against Islamophobia without deep reflection and respond to the dance calls from the likes of the Muslim Brotherhood (even though any clearheaded analysis of the Sharia Law that the MB and OIC seeks to advance should be MORE opposed by the left than even Christianity, not less, given that Islam actually will put your head on a block or toss you off a roof) you are an expendable, a useful idiot. If you find you can resist the rhetoric of Islamophobia you may be closer to a real Marxist, which also means you can still reject indoctrination aimed at manipulating the useful idiots if you find reasons to.”

In short: who is the manipulated and who is the manipulator. Someone with an actual education, rather than indoctrination, can resist manipulations others who have been indoctrinated simply cannot.

Finally ...

* If you're upset by something but you can tolerate it (negative tolerance, not some idiotic notion of positive tolerance) you aren't a Snowflake.

* If you don't much care for what Snowflakes are destroying you may not be a Snowflake (indifference isn't the same thing as offense).

* If you don't care one jot that the Snowflakes are offended you certainly aren't a Snowflake (indeed, we can save the civilization by not caring one jot about what offends Snowflakes, and moreover going out of our way to offend them is probably a positive good).

Incidentally, these three appear to cover the majority of folks here at Hannity.

Again ...

NEVER pay the Dane-Geld!



Addendum: in that OP I may not have made it as clear as I should have that I consider the ability to be offended by proxy, to be offended by things you imagine offend people who are notably of this or that protected class, is often a defining aspect of all genuine Snowflakes. A Type 1 isn't just triggered into emotional distress by things that they think are directed at them but by anything insensitive to any victim class too. A Type 2 will shamelessly take advantage of any opportunity to extract a pound of flesh.
30 posted on 05/12/2018 7:48:27 AM PDT by Rurudyne (Standup Philosopher)
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To: Rurudyne

Leftists are never allowed to own negative stereotypes - just ask any leftist! I noticed the scalded-cat reaction of the left to being called snowflakes. They reflexively recoiled and disproved the axiom of “sticks and stones...”.

Then they started hurling it back at us. Only in their case they did so inappropriately and ineffectually. In their little rat brains, having (or worse, espousing!) a different opinion = being offended. And of course on the left being offended means being outraged. And being outraged = snowflake.

They even take it to the point where making a dismissive comment = outrage = snowflake. It’s their Alice through the looking glass perception of left-wingers perception of right-wingers perception of left-wingers. They feeeeeeeeel that they know us when they don’t even know themselves.


31 posted on 05/12/2018 8:13:17 AM PDT by rockrr ( Everything is different now...)
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