Posted on 05/10/2018 5:18:39 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster
U.S. seeks the relocation of N. Korean nuclear engineers
By YOSHIHIRO MAKINO/ Correspondent
May 10, 2018 at 16:35 JST
SEOUL--In preliminary negotiations before their upcoming summit, the United States is demanding that North Korea relocate its nuclear engineers to other countries and discard data from its nuclear development program.
The demands were made in preliminary discussions for the U.S.-North Korea summit scheduled to be held by early June, sources related to North Korea said on May 9.
However, North Korea is resisting the relocation of up to several thousand nuclear engineers and is taking a vague stance on the abandonment of data on its six nuclear experiments and nuclear-related facilities in Yongbyon, they added.
According to the sources, the United States also wants North Korea to abandon all its weapons of mass destruction, including biological and chemical weapons.
In addition, the United States is asserting that it will not allow North Korea to launch a satellite-carrying rocket, which has the same capabilities as long-range ballistic missiles.
Officially, North Korea denies possessing biological or chemical weapons. It is also planning to launch a rocket on a national commemoration day. Therefore, the country is strongly resisting the demands and the assertion.
The difference of opinions has yet to be resolved between the two countries on the “period” and “method” for dismantlement of nuclear bombs and nuclear-related facilities.
The United States wants North Korea to carry out complete, verifiable and irreversible dismantlement in a short period, such as several months or up to two years. However, North Korea prefers to carry it out step by step, spreading the process out over a long period.
As for returns to be made in exchange for dismantlement, the United States is assuming that it will give them after all the measures for dismantlement are complete. But North Korea is seeking to be rewarded each time one of the measures is taken.
Meanwhile, the United States is seeking the relocation of North Korean nuclear engineers and elimination of nuclear development data as part of the “method” for dismantlement.
In the ongoing preliminary negotiations, North Korea has shown a stance that it will accept dismantlement of its nuclear bombs and intercontinental ballistic missiles (ICBM).
However, the United States fears that even if North Korea scraps its nuclear bombs and ICBMs, it can resume nuclear development in the future if it retains its nuclear engineers and data.
North Korean leader Kim Jong Un met again with Chinese President Xi Jinping on May 7 and 8 following their first meeting in late March. Kim made his second visit to China to meet with Xi to weaken the strong U.S. stance by showing close cooperation with China.
We don’t need any nuclear powered dishwashers.
In the first months after VE day, by prior agreements, Germany was divided into US, British, French and Soviet sectors. Initially there was lots of chaos as with all of Europe with displaced persons scattered everywhere and traveling everywhere to get somewhere better. All the four powers were searching for and finding war criminals and critical persons such as the rocket scientists. Most of the scientists ended up in USA control but a significant number also ended up with the Soviets. One head start the USA had is that most of the V1 rocket manufacturing was in the allied sectors so we ended up with quite a few V1’s that were shipped to White Sands, New Mexico. Both White Sands Missile Range and the Huntsville, AL facilities had these German's as core resources.
The original V1 rockets brought to White Sands were the technological founding for both for ballistic missiles and the Mercury manned space program. Heck, it's not too much of a stretch to regard the Mercury rocket itself to be a bigger version of the V1 with 1960’s state of the art technology.
Some trivia told me by a Zeiss employee in the 1980’s. In the chaos after VE Day, General Patton sent a truck convoy into the Soviet zone and they loaded up equipment at the Zeiss factory and all the workers and their families that they could lay their hands on. The whole load then high tailed it back to the USA sector. This is why Zeiss revived in West Germany instead of East Germany. Patton really liked Zeiss binoculars.
One more trivia.... Not only did the WWII rocket scientists work on USA and Soviet missile development, they had a role with the French and I suspect the British programs as well.
Tell you what, if you take back all the Somalis, they can live in Portland. We could use a couple of Korean restaurants.
I understand Haiti can use a few nuclear engineers for their plumbing problems.Nuclear engineers there are almost as non existent as toilet seats.
Nucreah engineers? We no can rerocate. Dey aww die in accident yestuhday. Clemate lemains. Leary. Aww data? OK. We plint out. Take aww data. Take compyutah. We not make photocopies owe make key-on-disk copies of data. Honest. You want girw, Donald? I give you five. Pee on bed foh you.
Quiet, you fat little creep. I’m posturing and showboating.
100%
I don’t see Kim allowing anyone of note to relocate abroad. Trust that NK’s nuclear scientists are part of the pampered cadre. They would have hundreds of stories about the excesses and abuses that occur among the elite ruling class. Kim would sooner execute them then risk them becoming credible and likely articulate critics abroad.
I think everyone can see how this is going to play out.
The ARt of the Deal.
Phase 1. Ask for as much as you can from the other side.
Phase 2. The other side counters.
Phase 3. You counter, or if you have given your best offer, you walk away from the table.
I think Trump is laying down some hefty requirements, they even make me blush. Americans don’t negotiate like this. He wants, in short, to have a peaceful Korean Peninsula. No in between.
In short, I see Trump walking away from the table, and ratcheting up the sanctions on fatso.
I’m guessing they’d use “heavy water” and make your glasses “sparkle with a soft green glow.”
No such thing as long as they have time to copy it all, which I assume is already well underway, if not completed in double, quadruple, triplicate long ago. Okay, you want our data? Here it is. Suckas!
Bring em here. Vet em. The few that have info and potential, make em a deal they can’t refuse
The others can be trained as pimps at massage parlors
Kamsa hamnida
North Koreans could use some Korean food too.
Just saying. (-:
Going to be interesting because Trumps not as former Presidents.....one of the reasons he’s speaking favorable about Kim’s release of the hostages is part of the deal, as it moves along, is that Trump stop bashing him and the nation.....He’s agreed...but they should not underestimate Trump..and so far I don’t think they have or we wouldn’t be this far..... Asians are huge on saving face!
We can assume every little step is as significant as what might come of it all......each matters far more to the Asian communities than to us, and Trump recognizes their ‘nature’ having dealt with China a long time in business. Knows how they operate..
I’m willing to watch and see.....
I agree, but did you read the conditions that Trump is laying out? It has John Bolton written all over it.
I mean, it all but forces N. Korea to join up with the South. That would be historic. I mean why carry on the war. There are people related to each other.
Will be interesting to see what Kim thinks of Singapore. It will definitely have an effect on him. wouldn’t it be funny if half his entourage defects?
Bolton knows N.Korea very well so I understand the conditions....and you certainly start out requesting far more than you really hope to have in the end when dealing with N.Korea....
Their does have to be an economic/business arrangements between the Koreans , South Korea has to get their skin in this game big time. Both Korean leaders want the entire world ‘paying’ for the rebuilding of the nation...so “pay” your fair share to get there.
South Korean people don’t want to join with the North....for obvious reasons....it’s a hugely different thing than when the Berlin Wall went down.......the people have had decades of lies and indoctrination that does not just go away. Once there is peace....and the initial joy the Northern population will be very demanding. They’ll be angry at all the lies, angry at why the world didn’t do something sooner....etc. etc. So what’s important is to make sure the populations remains as stable as possible.
I seem to recall that there was a huge intellectual and cultural divide between the two Germanys. The East brought nothing to the table, but a generation of two later, and it’s like old times again.
I agree, it would be like opening Cuba back up. The people living there are have no resemblance to the mainland Cubans.
But heres the key...the young people. Don’t underestimate what can happen once your unharness freedom of the young. ONce the get a taste of the South, look out... I mean look out. It’s the older generations that will harvest the anger...
No, I actually see the North joining the South much easier.
I read somewhere that Fatso personal money reserves will run out in October. Don’t know how anyone would know this, but I’ve read this more than once. I also read where we know exactly the bank accounts of Putin.
Don’t think that this is a small item. It’s huge. Kim can be history in the blink of an eye. It would be smart for him to be assured that he retains his power. don’t know how he will, as there are many in the North who probably don’t want to see a joining up with the South..
But who knows. The Christian faith is huge in the Philipines. NOt sure about South Korea, but I think it’s strong there too.
There could be a giant improvement in the quality of life world wide if we could join up with the economies in the Pacific. It almost looks like the world is going in that direction regardless of what happens now.
Amazing. The only way this will stop for now, is if Trump is killed.
.....”Don’t underestimate what can happen once your unharness freedom of the young. ONce the get a taste of the South, look out...”.......
Which is exactly what the youth of the South don’t want.
I don’t know. These are amazing times. Moving so fast. It’s like we’ve been sleep walking ever since the Kennedy assassination. Our country knew then that we were destined to be the peace keepers in the world. Viet Nam was a fiasco that should have been avoided.
But in technology and manufacturing our country stopped being great, and turned to Socialism and mediocrity.
We’re back on track, IMO.
I think things can turn around very fast in N. Korea. Don’t know how China sees things.
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