Posted on 05/03/2018 8:35:00 AM PDT by rktman
Another Note...
While the consensus is that Starfish Prime caused the limited streetlight outage in Hawaii, it is far from a proven conclusion.
The most widely accepted theory within DOD is that it was the bright light from the explosion that triggered photovoltaic switches on the already overloaded lines, causing them to switch off/on to quickly and therefore burning the fuses.
NOT the EMP.
And, yes, I do have some expertise. Though it’s limited.
I have 10 years in military communications to include several years in the MEECN network and over a year as a DCA facility auditor. That included training in the effects of EMP from the DOD point of view...
The necessary grounding, shielding etc. As well as expected practical effects at distances.
Of course they could have been lying to us, or perhaps they didn’t know what they were talking about.
I have no way to independently verify that. But I suspect they were expert and genuinely wanted those responsible for carrying out the nations essential communications to be prepared for the likely outcome.
Bull.
Mr.GG2 is a general contractor. He built me a predator proof coop. Even rats can’t get in. We had a couple of rat snakes get in looking for eggs that’s about it. If it was not for that they would all be coyote or racoon dinner. :-)
Agreed. While a nasty solar eruption could cause problems, the enemy nation-state/terrorist group threat is essentially non-existent. Much ado about nothing.
"One Second After" is a fun read, but it definitely belongs in the fiction section.
The worst power impact from an EMP would be at the local distribution level. That means some transformers would need new fuses or have to be replaced. No big deal.
I had never even heard of knob & tube so looked it up. Ah, most new construction use ended in the 1930s, while construction here (other than pioneer buildings) really didn’t get going until the 40s (Hanford area war project). So I hadn’t run across it.
Bit more than a minor inconvenience. The problem is not cars being rendered inoperative, it will be the fact that the signal system will need major work just to start working again, and you will be chasing faults for years. Ever see what happens to traffic when stop light go dark, now imagine every stop light in a major metro area goes dark at once.
Where they give kV as a unit is that really kVA, or not?
Talk about vulnerable, at MCI we actually had a long haul fiber optic path taken out by a lightning strike. Our field techs found it and fully documented it. Our fiber had a copper conductor within the fiber sheath for technicians to use to communicate between the pull boxes. The technicians found that lightning hit a tree, arced through sand, and went into the copper conductor which heated like a fuse and crystallized the fibers in that section of fiber. The techs that found it figured no engineer would believe it so they dug up the fulgurite with photos to prove it.
Tech Control?
Yeah, It would be a cake walk./s
It’s a hell of a long way from the apocalypse like you believe it to be.
Not trying to be snide here, but the refineries might be down for awhile, but I’ve seen people get gas without electricity, you’ve just got to jury rig a hand pump to get it out of the underground tanks.
Not saying there wouldn’t be problems once the tanks were dry, but if people don’t go sight seeing, might have enough to get by...if they are careful.
really? Cause I bet it won’t be the part of the “herd” that needs to. It won’t be the condom swallowing, Tide Pod swallowing challenge idiots, no, it will be the sick (and not just old people), the elderly (who MADE) this Country what it was, and is.
Think before you speak. Their are alot of people who would be part of that “herd” you’re talking about who mean the world to their families.
I understand what you’re saying. But it would be more complicated than that. Trucks supplying food, grocery stores, farmers, hospitals, the banking system and everything else which is reliant on electricity, etc, etc would all be affected. It would be chaos. It would have a snowball effect.
The worst part would be the idiots.
We should harden the grid just in case.
http://www.futurescience.com/emp/vehicles.html
“The one thing that does have a broad level of agreement among those who have studied the matter is that obtaining fuel after any kind of electromagnetic disaster would be a matter of extreme difficulty. Any particular vehicle may or may not run, until it runs out of fuel; then it will not run any longer until the fuel production and distribution system can be re-started.”
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So if a few stations invested in a hand pump system
BEFORE an EMP attack emergency transportation could exist for years?
I’m not studied up on this matter. I was just investigating certain posts on this thread, and...
Aye, and TACAMO and DCA.
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