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To: kabar
We also assess Putin and the Russian Government aspired to help President-elect Trump’s election chances when possible by discrediting Secretary Clinton and publicly contrasting her unfavorably to him. All three agencies agree with this judgment.

All I can say (grrrr) is SO WHAT?

Didn't Obama do the SAME in Israel vis-à-vis Bibi?

Didn't MEXICO, Vincente Fox, Enrique Peña Nieto, and all the rest do the SAME to Trump?

This selective outrage, on the part of our supposedly NON-POLTICAL intelligence agencies, is an absolute outrage and in fact, a Constitutional crisis if I ever saw one.

Unless this is prosecuted and disavowed from ever happening again, this country has suffered a mortal blow, I kid you not.

117 posted on 04/22/2018 8:36:28 AM PDT by Alas Babylon! (If white privilege is real, why do we have millions of poor white people?)
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To: Alas Babylon!
-- This selective outrage, on the part of our supposedly NON-POLTICAL intelligence agencies, is an absolute outrage and in fact, a Constitutional crisis if I ever saw one. --

Only if you believed the intelligence, military, and law enforcement agencies were apolitical to begin with. They are all in it to expand and defend the bureaucracy, and will ALWAYS strive to support the prevailing political winds. If that is driven by trans-national interests, so what, as long as they keep their piece.

-- Unless this is prosecuted and disavowed from ever happening again, this country has suffered a mortal blow --

Disavowed again? They all claim to be lily white, apolitical, and constitution revering. No shortage of believers. It's what allows the system to maintain its thumb on the scale and hands on the levers of power. An outsider will NEVER be allowed to win a powerful election contest again. That and letting everybody and their cousin vote. Right to vote = freedom, everybody believes that.

The country will be here. It's not going away. Just filled with a different society. Time marches on.

125 posted on 04/22/2018 8:45:49 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Alas Babylon!
Couldn't agree more. This is a highly politicized intel community issuing a report based on little facts and more on conjecture. It is a political document, not an intelligence product. It was done by three agencies (not 17) and rammed thru by Clapper to meet the artificial deadline set by Obama. It was ready in time to brief Trump and set the narrative two weeks before Trump was sworn in. This has all the hallmarks of a conspiracy.

Obama, Clapper, Brennan, and Comey all knew that their plot was going to be revealed and needed to do a hastily prepared cover-up.

I would hope that the DOJ IG report would investigate this plot, but I am not sanguine about the raised expectations by some about what the IG will conclude. It must always be remembered that this is an in-house investigation and the IG will try to protect the institution no matter how objective they purport to be. There needs to be an outside investigation. IMO we already have a constitutional crisis. If those responsible are not held accountable, it makes equal treatment under the law a joke. If Israel, Brazil, South Korea, the Philippines, etc. can hold their highest officials accountable, so can we. The Republic will be stronger for it.

132 posted on 04/22/2018 8:53:15 AM PDT by kabar
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