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Why More Taxpayer Funding to Elon Musk’s Big F-ing Rocket Would Be a Big F-ing Mistake
Townhall.com ^ | April 21, 2018 | Beau Rothschild

Posted on 04/21/2018 9:13:50 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: mowowie

Why should the US taxpayer allow any more of our hard earned money to prop up musk’s enterprises? How much money has Uncle Sam already poured into musk’s companies to save them from folding? Remember he wasted how much money buying out his relatives failing Solar City business? If we throw more money his way will any of it go be diverted to cover loses else where? His businesses are black holes with no end to their need for an infusion of government largesse.


21 posted on 04/21/2018 10:02:28 AM PDT by IWONDR
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To: TheNext

Yea they were a bit....loud....think i still have a few scars on my fingers lol.

i got a 10 yr old nephew downstairs addicted to playstation, i should hit up ebay and see what they got to divert him a bit this summer.


22 posted on 04/21/2018 10:02:53 AM PDT by mowowie (uire lab;)
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To: Kaslin

If Musk’s BFR’s script seems oddly familiar, that’s because it is. Previously, SpaceX said it would change the heavy-lift rocket game with its Falcon Heavy – a rocket that launched for the first time in February – but this Disney-esque storyline may not pan out as imagined. Not only did the Falcon Heavy’s core rocket booster crash into the ocean on its inaugural launch, but its for-show Tesla Roadster payload also overshot Mars’ orbit and could collide with something in space years down the road.

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The author is an ignorant asshole with Musk Derangement Syndrome.

The second stage purposely depleted its propellant to see how far out it could go. It was more successful than planned.


23 posted on 04/21/2018 10:06:36 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Give a man a fish and he'll be a Democrat. Teach a man to fish and he'll be a responsible citizen.)
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To: mowowie

Are you kidding me? Since when do freedom lovers advocate subsidizing billionaires and then fuss when someone pays shrillary a taxpayer quarter mill for a public university speech. Just wow.
Might I suggest a durn wall instead.. our impotent leadership displays its corruptocratic priority spending. .


24 posted on 04/21/2018 10:09:37 AM PDT by momincombatboots (No Wall, No Way 2018)
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To: mowowie

Ah the good old days.
back then we would glue the fins right onto the engine....forget the costly rocket.

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That reminds me that the BFR will have the heat shields (outer skin) bolted directly to the fuel tanks. In other words, no box in a box as Musk puts it. It will save a lot of weight.


25 posted on 04/21/2018 10:11:59 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Give a man a fish and he'll be a Democrat. Teach a man to fish and he'll be a responsible citizen.)
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To: mowowie

Cox has been gone for nearly 20 years.

Norvel engines from Russia were used by the airplanes guys for a while. Beautifully machined little jewels. It looks like that company only makes bigger units now. A shame.


26 posted on 04/21/2018 10:12:45 AM PDT by Professional Engineer (This account has been banned or suspended.)
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To: momincombatboots

It’s not a subsidy. The government is paying for a product or service it wants, and getting a great value in return.

Maybe you should bitch about the money that the big contractors like Boeing have received over the years while still charging a fortune for launches.


27 posted on 04/21/2018 10:14:05 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Give a man a fish and he'll be a Democrat. Teach a man to fish and he'll be a responsible citizen.)
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To: IWONDR

Musk is also a business man.
When you got a dbag like hussein and the rest of the dem party promising to put petroleum and carbon out of business you jump on the next available thing wouldn’t you?
yea, solar sucks, he knows it too but just like Ford with the Model T he wanted to be just like him....having leftists hand you globs of money to do it helps...would you not take the cash?
Thing is Musk is the kind of guy given time to make a solar panel far more efficient.


28 posted on 04/21/2018 10:14:34 AM PDT by mowowie (uire lab;)
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To: mowowie

I have a feeling that the main prob with Musk is that a LOT of people are seriously JEALOUS and envious of the guy...


29 posted on 04/21/2018 10:16:26 AM PDT by mowowie (uire lab;)
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To: Kaslin

The author of this article is an idiot. A spacecraft traveling into the outer reaches of the solar system has ZERO chance of “colliding with something else in space years down the road.” Even the chances of it encountering space dust is nil. Does the author realize how vast space is?

He seems to have a hot poker up his butt about Musk and he should be honest as to why.


30 posted on 04/21/2018 10:16:57 AM PDT by tom h
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To: TheNext
SpaceX is a scam like the perpetual Vehicle car of past time. Acknowledge the current design problems, use the tests for publicity, then switch to a NEW design with NEW funding.

Whether he's a scammer or not will be quickly discovered. First off, government should get OUT of the satellite launch business, and let private companies sort it out among themselves.

31 posted on 04/21/2018 10:25:22 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (Big governent is attractive to those who think that THEY will be in control of it.)
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To: tom h

Musk is RICH, young, good looking and gets hot chicks.
THAT is the writers beef..


32 posted on 04/21/2018 10:25:39 AM PDT by mowowie (uire lab;)
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To: from occupied ga
nice try wrong answer, Fed did not fund any rocket development.
all of the falcon rockets are in house development..
dragon was developed for the cargo carrier to ISS..
spacex launches government payloads and Private payloads
33 posted on 04/21/2018 10:30:30 AM PDT by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!at)
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To: Professional Engineer

Interesting about Norvel, read up on it a bit Thank you.

these kids today, playstation and their phone and nothing else.
my 10 yr old nephew doesn’t even bother with his bicycle..

i’d trade 1980 over any tech available today....please god send me back..


34 posted on 04/21/2018 10:32:37 AM PDT by mowowie (uire lab;)
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To: IWONDR

Musk showed up in Canada with a high school diploma and a phone number for a distant relative. He got a job cleaning a boiler because it paid the most money. He initially paid for his college education by running a nightclub on the weekends in the house he rented. He then earned a scholarship to UPenn and got a degree in physics and a degree in business from Wharton (the same school as president Trump).

Musk then dropped out of Stanford after a couple of days to start his first company. He slept on a bean bag chair in the office. He sold the company and earned $22 million. He then started on online bank (Paypal) and earned over $200 million when he sold that. He started SpaceX from scratch after the Russians tried to rip him off when he tried to buy a rocket from them. He eventually put all of his Paypal money into SpaceX and Tesla (at first as an investment and then to avoid bankruptcy).

Musk doesn’t receive a salary (like President Trump) except for minimum wage he must receive by law (he doesn’t cash the checks).

Should Musk’s companies have turned down money that the government was throwing at his companies, his competitor’s companies, and their customers? I guarantee his shareholders wouldn’t have allowed it. He started these companies because he dreamed about rockets and electric cars since he was a kid, not because he wanted subsidies.

So unless you’ve accomplished one one thousandth of what Musk has accomplished you’re just being a deranged idiot who doesn’t know what she’s talking about.


35 posted on 04/21/2018 10:41:58 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Give a man a fish and he'll be a Democrat. Teach a man to fish and he'll be a responsible citizen.)
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To: Kaslin

Space X has already proven that their designs work.

ULA has yet to begin a ‘recoverable’ first stage test.

Bezos is a monopolist, and cannot be anything else in any endeavor of his.

The engines of the Space X BFR are just more of what already works. Simple. Easy.

Of course, NASA is whining about getting back into the business, after an 8 year or more hiatus. Which to me means that they have to be designing for a while longer, while Space X marches on.


36 posted on 04/21/2018 10:54:22 AM PDT by Terry L Smith (.)
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To: Vaquero

Agreed, I think Tesla is a joke, but Space X is a remarkable company.


37 posted on 04/21/2018 11:03:52 AM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: TheNext

Never wrap your Testes in Duct tape! NEVER!


38 posted on 04/21/2018 11:07:28 AM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mowowie

You glue the fins to the engine, glue on a bit of drinking straw for launch control, Then.... you cut down the fuse on a Cherrybomb an glue that fuse end to the ejection charge as a payload.

Great wholesome fun!


39 posted on 04/21/2018 11:12:33 AM PDT by mylife (The Roar Of The Masses Could Be Farts)
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To: mowowie

Genius? Excuse while I get up off the floor laughing.

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2013/aug/12/elon-musk-unveils-hyperloop-transport


40 posted on 04/21/2018 11:25:01 AM PDT by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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