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7 Forces Driving America Toward Civil War
Townhall.com ^ | April 21, 2018 | John Hawkins

Posted on 04/21/2018 5:19:30 AM PDT by Kaslin

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To: pepsionice

Excellent ideas. Long as your building a wish list, may I put in a strong wish for term limits for every elected official and also judges.

As to the two sixty-day sessions idea, how ‘bout Aug, Sep and Feb, Mar.


81 posted on 04/21/2018 8:49:12 AM PDT by upchuck (Keep a sharp lookout. The best is yet to come.)
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To: Kaslin

In order for there to be a war there must be two sides fighting each other. On our side, while we wring our hands and express our outrage, the left is busy destroying the political influence of the NRA, causing sponsors to drop conservative voices on radio and FOX, organizing school children, etc. The left knows how to hit where it hurts, and we know how to repeat statements of outrage.

If someone does try to do any real fighting, e.g. Judge Roy Moore, he is castigated by our side for “stooping to their level.” On this thread, one dear FReeper was upset that people said ugly things about Barbara Bush. While I agree that it is pointless to criticize her, she has met her Maker, we ought to understand the feelings of those who are on our side who just think it is stupid to try to be nice to those who want to destroy all we believe in.

I did not see what was said about B. Bush, so I cannot defend any of that, but if there is nothing we can do but scream in helpless frustration, you cannot expect us to be sweet and nice doing it!


82 posted on 04/21/2018 8:55:04 AM PDT by BDParrish (One representative for every 30,000 persons!)
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To: TalBlack
In 2010 one of my buddy's father passed away. After the viewing we went to a friend's house for refreshments and to continue the visit. My buddy was holding court and talking about a civil war.

Bear in mind about half of the room didn't know the other half. Usually in these discussions some would politely excuse themselves as they didn't want to be around the "crazy" talk.

Except in this case no one left. In fact, most were in agreement with my buddy. The room felt something was wrong and that something was coming.

I've not forgotten that.

83 posted on 04/21/2018 8:55:08 AM PDT by ealgeone
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To: Noumenon

“Congressman Sinise begs to differ.“

Forget it. He’s on a roll.

L


84 posted on 04/21/2018 8:57:43 AM PDT by Lurker (President Trump isn't our last chance. President Trump is THEIR last chance.)
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To: laplata
If something happens to President Trump.....look out!

President Trump is 71, overweight, and exists on a diet of KFC, Taco Bell and Big Macs. He's not going to be around forever. It's the MAGA-populist philosophy that he gave life to that's not going away.

85 posted on 04/21/2018 8:59:03 AM PDT by Drew68
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To: Kaslin

2,4, and 6 are particularly interesting.

Our majority (for the next brief moment) population refuses to see itself as a group, and assert for its own interests. I mean white people. The “tribalists” will advocate for their groups, and against white people. Eventually, it will be Zimbabwe. Be comforted though. As the burning tire is placed around your neck, you can politely inform your murderer that the Democrats are the real racists. That will cause him to stop, and ask you about the Constitution, assuming he speaks English.

The moral decline has been brought on by the same wonderful people who want to flood the United States and Europe with the 3rd world. The morality of the U.S. and Europe has been based in Christianity for centuries. Uprooting it has taken the “tribalists” decades. All of those “natural conservatives” flowing into California haven’t turned its morals back around. Any moment now, I’m sure they will all embrace The Constitution. Yeah, right.

So, a diverse population devoid of a shared morality or even language; what a shock that the culture is fractured. Find a diverse country that has a shared culture. Then find a hen’s tooth, a four leafed clover, and Bigfoot.

Diversity plus proximity equals violence. Makes the gun grabbing all the more dire an issue.


86 posted on 04/21/2018 9:03:56 AM PDT by cdcdawg
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To: ClearCase_guy

Not me.


87 posted on 04/21/2018 9:20:00 AM PDT by wardaddy (As a southerner I've never trusted the Grand Old Party.....any questions?)
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To: DoodleBob

Good post

I don’t buy this version of tribalism

I lived in west Africa

That’s tribalism

Shared ethnicity race and creed and religion and ancestry....inherent stuff

This guy thinks shared values and social interests is tribalism


88 posted on 04/21/2018 9:27:26 AM PDT by wardaddy (As a southerner I've never trusted the Grand Old Party.....any questions?)
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To: Drew68

Assassination is what I meant.


89 posted on 04/21/2018 9:34:23 AM PDT by laplata (Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: cgbg

You’re right.


90 posted on 04/21/2018 9:35:34 AM PDT by laplata (Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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To: Kaslin

bump


91 posted on 04/21/2018 9:41:43 AM PDT by foreverfree
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To: Kartographer

In other words, do what mom used to say - ‘if you can’t say anything nice, don’t say anything at all’. We have lost that.


92 posted on 04/21/2018 9:48:06 AM PDT by ozarkgirl
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To: Kaslin

I couldn’t find anything wrong with the logic of this author. The big question is what will we do with all the leftist losers after the war? They have to go somewhere; they can’t stay here.


93 posted on 04/21/2018 10:32:25 AM PDT by Boomer (Leftism is a Mental Cancer on Society!)
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To: ClearCase_guy

“I am increasingly optimistic that the curtains will be pulled back and that the average American (80% of the population) will see that they have been lied to and manipulated by evil people....”

You have forgotten the decades of leftist indoctrination that has gone on in the public schools and universities. The left has been destroying our history and culture for decades.

Twenty-five years ago I had a conversation with six teachers.
I asked them what was the most significant, world changing event of the 20th century. I reminded them that such an event could last for years.

I got answers like the civil rights movement, the assassination of JFK and things of that nature. All significant in the US.

I asked those teachers why none of them thought WWII made their list. Old powers lost their influence, the US and USSR rose to super-power status the map of the world was drastically redrawn, the economies of European nations destroyed, Germany split in two and so on.

They agreed that WWII was SO LONG AGO THAT IT DIDN’T MATTER ANYMORE. The world was different and there were more important things to spend class time on.

Most blacks today don’t know who Booker T Washington was or what he believed. They know Maya Angelou, Barack Obama, Colin Kaepernick and the black rappers but not blacks of substance who thought/think differently than the DNC has approved.

Then we get into the influx of Mexicans and South Americans who don’t want to BE Americans and muslims who want to conquer the world for islam.

No, I am not optimistic.
The glass is half full because it is cracked and leaking.
Just look at how unhinged the left became over the election of President Trump.
We are too far down the rabbit hole for easy exit.


94 posted on 04/21/2018 10:56:15 AM PDT by oldvirginian ("The people built this country. And it is the people who are making America great again.” D TRUMP)
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To: Drew68

lots of betrayals coming.


95 posted on 04/21/2018 11:40:41 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Kaslin

“3. “If most Americans wanted to live like people in San Francisco, they’d live in San Francisco.”

Nope, those all think your city should be like (their favorite ideal prog crap-hole), they get on the city council by a 6-1 prog margin, and they’re just getting started at that point.

Especially if they’re infiltrators from any p.rog crap-hole.


96 posted on 04/21/2018 11:47:43 AM PDT by castlebrew (Gun Control means hitting where you're aiming!))
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To: Kaslin

BTTT


97 posted on 04/21/2018 11:54:06 AM PDT by thesearethetimes... (Had I brought Christ with me, the outcome would have been different. Dr.Eric Cunningham)
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To: pepsionice

12: And only paid at 50% of the median income of the lowest-income county in the US.
No limos.
No perks.
No pension.
No dining rooms,
No barbers.
No airline flights on the taxpayer dime.
Work from home (use the modern video technology) and stay available to constituents 24/7. No bankers hours.
Meet in the geographic center of the 50 states.

The Texas legislature meets for 140 days every 2 years. I hear that most Texans prefer the reverse of that.


98 posted on 04/21/2018 11:54:56 AM PDT by castlebrew (Gun Control means hitting where you're aiming!))
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To: ClearCase_guy

Trump is the only thing holding off the inevitable dissolution of the country and the descent into violence. It gives us more time to prepare. For this, we should be grateful.


99 posted on 04/21/2018 12:23:37 PM PDT by oblomov
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To: Kaslin
Liberals don’t believe in the Constitution. Typically they deny this...
That's not been my experience.  They believe there is a Constitution but that it is a worthless piece of paper to be ignored.
... Typically they deny this, but that’s exactly what a “living” Constitution means. You make it up as you go along. The Founders foresaw the instability and danger that would be created by this approach, which is why they wanted us to be a constitutional republic
You are conflating two separate things.  The Founders foresaw the need to 'adjust' the Constitution by the process of amendment, making it somewhat 'living.'  They opted for a Republic to keep majority (mob) rule within limits.
If most Americans wanted to live like people in San Francisco, they’d live in San Francisco.
Well no.  I don't have to move to Dallas to live like people in Dallas.
ineffective politicians and our “amusing ourselves to death” population, there are no guarantees our republic will survive. 
Probably true.  But that is not the nature of civil wars.  Pitting one group of snowflakes against another is a wash.
Over the long haul, there has be something more to hold a country together than, “We wear Nikes, like pop music and play golf.”
An external existential threat usually does the trick, only not for the long haul.  That requires a dictatorship, which is another way of making sure everyone else lives like I think they should.  See the notion of religious liberty as opposed to freedom of religion. The latter is of a personal nature, the former is making everyone else conform to the latter. There are a large number of Americans whose desires converge onto dictatorship.

100 posted on 04/21/2018 12:39:58 PM PDT by sparklite2 (See more at Sparklite Times)
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