Posted on 04/12/2018 3:26:40 AM PDT by McGruff
Never said when an attack on Syria would take place. Could be very soon or not so soon at all! In any event, the United States, under my Administration, has done a great job of ridding the region of ISIS. Where is our “Thank you America?”
Non sequitur ... not surprising from you.
However, to seriously answer your question: I am, unfortunately, well beyond military service age.
They’ll take you still. They need the help.
I already knew you were because you called the Russian’s Communists in the other thread, which is a sign of senility.
I’m not an isolationist. I know war much too intimately to be one. But I’m not willing to send my kid or anyone else’s kid halfway around the damn world, to depose a dictator only to put radical Islamists in charge. So you are saying that anytime, a regime does something that violates treaties, it’s time to go to war? If that’s the case, we will never have peace.
It’s not a Non sequitur. It always seems to be that the ones who beat the war drums loudest, have nothing to lose.
Fine, then don’t sign any damn treaties, and don’t have allies. Then you never need uphold your word. Then you can always have “peace” - for as long as every other aggressor allows you to enjoy it.
Nothing to lose? really? So when some a$$hole decides to use chem weapons here - because we decided to play the “it’s not our problem” card - I’ll come see you, and wait with baited breath on your “wisdom,” after I finish burying my family members, provided I survive.
Hell Yes! We agree! What have our “allies” done for us for the last 40 years? The Brits fought and will fight alongside us either way. Why the hell do we commit ourselves to shed our blood for any other country, no matter what? Suppose an “ally” makes overtly aggressive and belligerent moves against a neighbor or a regional rival? Are we bound by a blood oath to back them, even if they are the aggressor? It’s just seems funny that upholding our word, always seems to cost us blood and money, in areas thousands of miles away from our homeland, with very little in return.
And I’ll do the same when my kid, ships out from NC and comes home in a box, to back your ISIS buddies. And pal, my scenario is way the hell more likely than yours.
“... Suppose an “ally” makes overtly aggressive and belligerent moves against a neighbor or a regional rival? ...”
As has done Turkey?
“ISIS buddies”?
Not sure whether to laugh at you - or tell you to go piss up a rope.
“... And pal, my scenario is way the hell more likely than yours.”
Go tell that to the surviving families of the 3000 who perished on September 11, 2001. Nobody believed that “scenario likely” either - until it happened.
Really? Because I am not only one of those surviving family members, but also a survivor and rescue/recovery worker. Had we not funded the Mujhadeen and armed and trained what became AQ, there wouldn’t have been a 9/11. I went to over 100 funerals after 9/11 and many more for friends and kids of friends who came back in boxes from our fuck up in Iraq. So you can tell me to “go piss up a rope” a million times, I don’t give a shit. But I sure as hell don’t want my Marine or his buddies, laying dead in a Syrian city to make it easier on ISIS.
1. Sincerely sorry for your loss.
2. The reality in life is that sometimes you have to play “the enemy of my enemy...” as much as it usually ends up burning your ass.
3. Had President Clinton done his job, and not wimped out for the possibility of killing “non-combatants,” OBL would have been dead before he got the chance to carry out the attacks.
4. Nobody said anything about committing ground forces to take out Assad.
Appreciate it and I agree with you on 2 and 3. But when we have a vital national interest at stake. Bombing Assad will do nothing but embolden the rebels to hang on. Airstrikes will not be enough.
Oh - and point 5 ...
Had our “intelligence” services and “leaders” not had their heads buried deep up their asses, we might have never experienced an attack like 9/11.
Agreed. It was a damn disgrace.
Just supposing the CWs came from Russia, by way of Iraq (as satellite imagery strongly suggests, when Russian convoys were spotted crossing from Iraq into Syria just days prior to the U.S. invasion) ... Or, alternatively, supposing those CWs came from Iran ... In either case it is quite within the realm of possibility and plausibility that ISIS or AQ could have access to those weapons and bring them here through our STILL porous undefended border. And if we start thinking about nerve gas, such as VX, then such a CW attack on an American city will make 9/11/01 look like a walk in the park. - because then, rather than thousands dead, we could be looking at 10’s, or 100’s of thousands.
Which is why ALL of Syria’s CWs must be destroyed.
Unlike the assertion of then SoS John Kerry, who stated that 100 percent of Assad’s DECLARED chemical weapons were destroyed, we cannot turn a blind eye to the possibilities that might unfold if we walk away from this issue.
One other point ...
Unlike Russia, who actually wishes to survive, and thus would not be insane enough to use nukes or CW’s on the U.S. or one of our allies, the Muslim nut jobs, who populate the majority of the ME, don’t give a rat’s ass about remaining among the living. So there exists no effective deterrent against a suicidal culture.
We can no more allow such people to possess CWs than we can allow them to develop or possess nuclear weapons. Not because we refuse to respect their sovereignty, but rather because they simply don’t give a shit about such ideals.
Good post!
But bombing Assad’s command and control facilities would do nothing to stop that. That is what the targets will be. We aren’t going to know where Assad keeps his CW. Keeping Assad in power, actually keeps those CWs out of the hands of the ISIS backed Rebels. If he falls, then it’s whoever gets there first, just like Saddam. There are plenty of other actors in the region, that have the capability to do what needs to be done. Would it not be better, to redeploy those assets to strengthen our borders, instead of trading one despot for another.
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