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To: unlearner
Paypal[publicly traded] has started to not associate businesses with 'nazi' groups. That's their right. You can't force a business to accept whom they don't want or for them not having the ability to change their policies ad hoc.

I shouldn't force a vegetarian restuarant to serve meat.

Cloudfare changed their policies a few months ago. That's on them. They have the right to pick their interest.

'If every contract, service, relationship, entity has the power to regulate speech, then there is no free speech.'

We do this all the time. Stormy Daniels anyone? Contract is a contract. That is a legitimate purpose of .gov to get involved. The enforcement of such contracts. Just as remediation has entered the market. You sign away the ability for redress with such actions. You limit your ability of 'speech'. This happens all the time, NDA. I understand your frustrations, but to me your going at it with a Bernie Sanders approach.

74 posted on 04/14/2018 10:44:03 AM PDT by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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To: Theoria

“We do this all the time. Stormy Daniels anyone? Contract is a contract. That is a legitimate purpose of .gov to get involved. The enforcement of such contracts. Just as remediation has entered the market. You sign away the ability for redress with such actions. You limit your ability of ‘speech’. This happens all the time, NDA. I understand your frustrations, but to me your going at it with a Bernie Sanders approach.”

Hyperbole much? Two can play at that game.

You are out of your cotton-picking mind. Yeah, I intentionally used trigger words. No one said that free speech is an unlimited right. But the examples you use are false. By your standards Facebook can put in the fine print of their terms of service that by using their site you pledge your soul to Satan, renounce all of your Constitutional rights, and give your firstborn to their eternal service. Your assertion shows zero comprehension of contract law.

You can’t win an argument based on reason, so you come up with the most ridiculous claims under the sun. I’d just outright call you a liar if it weren’t so obviously phony that NO ONE on this site will believe you.

You’ve said already that my pro-free speech position is supportive of forcing bakeries to make custom homosexual wedding cakes. That’s the kind of tactic that Democrats use: accuse your opponent of the opposite of the truth. Now you’ve taken it a step further and claimed my position is a Bernie Sanders position.

Next you’ll be informing us that George Washington, Ben Franklin, and Thomas Jefferson were liberal, atheist Marxists (yeah, before Marx was even born they were Marxists... they just didn’t have a name for it yet).

You made a few good points about property rights earlier, but your stubborn desire to be right, no matter what the facts of the matter are, is causing you to dig yourself into a deep hole. It’s one thing to weigh free speech versus property and contract rights and lean in one direction. It’s quite another to drag a fundamental right behind the barn, and torture and murder it.

That’s what siding with Facebook is: turning property rights (including the conjured rights of domain names) and forging them into a bludgeoning weapon to beat lady liberty to death. I’d like to believe you are doing so out of total ignorance rather than depraved malice. But the outcome is the same: with people like you, freedom will fall. It really is that simple. You can be stubbornly right-in-your-own-mind all you want. But free speech is guaranteed for a reason: it prevents tyranny.

Google and Facebook are turning to evil entities such as Southern Poverty Law Center to decide what speech to restrict on their PUBLIC and MONOPOLISTIC platforms. These are people who want conservatives DEAD. But you will shout from the roof top their right to do so because of PROPERTY RIGHTS, PROPERTY RIGHTS, and PROPERTY RIGHTS. But you won’t take an hour or two to read up on what constitutes true property rights, where they come from, and what their limitations are... even when it is spoon fed to you.

I’ve encountered people who just want to argue a point for the sake of argument, but you take the homosexual wedding cake.

Are you even a real person? I’m really starting to wonder if you are an experimental AI that Facebook is using to troll Free Republic. What kind of nonsense is this? Are you smoking crack? Did you forget your meds?

You take straw-man to a new level. You’re a Wizard of Oz flying monkey... grasping at straws.

I have not heard a single word from you favoring free speech. Until you prove otherwise I’m going with the Facebook AI theory. I’m arguing with a robot that is programmed to advance Zuckerberg’s rights above everyone else on the planet.

Bernie Sanders? Homosexual wedding cakes? Really, that’s what you’ve got?


75 posted on 04/14/2018 11:46:13 AM PDT by unlearner (A war is coming.)
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To: Theoria

“We do this all the time. Stormy Daniels anyone? Contract is a contract. That is a legitimate purpose of .gov to get involved. The enforcement of such contracts. Just as remediation has entered the market. You sign away the ability for redress with such actions. You limit your ability of ‘speech’. This happens all the time, NDA. I understand your frustrations, but to me your going at it with a Bernie Sanders approach.”

Hyperbole much? Two can play at that game.

You are out of your cotton-picking mind. Yeah, I intentionally used trigger words. No one said that free speech is an unlimited right. But the examples you use are false. By your standards Facebook can put in the fine print of their terms of service that by using their site you pledge your soul to Satan, renounce all of your Constitutional rights, and give your firstborn to their eternal service. Your assertion shows zero comprehension of contract law.

You can’t win an argument based on reason, so you come up with the most ridiculous claims under the sun. I’d just outright call you a liar if it weren’t so obviously phony that NO ONE on this site will believe you.

You’ve said already that my pro-free speech position is supportive of forcing bakeries to make custom homosexual wedding cakes. That’s the kind of tactic that Democrats use: accuse your opponent of the opposite of the truth. Now you’ve taken it a step further and claimed my position is a Bernie Sanders position.

Next you’ll be informing us that George Washington, Ben Franklin, and Thomas Jefferson were liberal, atheist Marxists (yeah, before Marx was even born they were Marxists... they just didn’t have a name for it yet).

You made a few good points about property rights earlier, but your stubborn desire to be right, no matter what the facts of the matter are, is causing you to dig yourself into a deep hole. It’s one thing to weigh free speech versus property and contract rights and lean in one direction. It’s quite another to drag a fundamental right behind the barn, and torture and murder it.

That’s what siding with Facebook is: turning property rights (including the conjured rights of domain names) and forging them into a bludgeoning weapon to beat lady liberty to death. I’d like to believe you are doing so out of total ignorance rather than depraved malice. But the outcome is the same: with people like you, freedom will fall. It really is that simple. You can be stubbornly right-in-your-own-mind all you want. But free speech is guaranteed for a reason: it prevents tyranny.

Google and Facebook are turning to evil entities such as Southern Poverty Law Center to decide what speech to restrict on their PUBLIC and MONOPOLISTIC platforms. These are people who want conservatives DEAD. But you will shout from the roof top their right to do so because of PROPERTY RIGHTS, PROPERTY RIGHTS, and PROPERTY RIGHTS. But you won’t take an hour or two to read up on what constitutes true property rights, where they come from, and what their limitations are... even when it is spoon fed to you.

I’ve encountered people who just want to argue a point for the sake of argument, but you take the homosexual wedding cake.

Are you even a real person? I’m really starting to wonder if you are an experimental AI that Facebook is using to troll Free Republic. What kind of nonsense is this? Are you smoking crack? Did you forget your meds?

You take straw-man to a new level. You’re a Wizard of Oz flying monkey... grasping at straws.

I have not heard a single word from you favoring free speech. Until you prove otherwise I’m going with the Facebook AI theory. I’m arguing with a robot that is programmed to advance Zuckerberg’s rights above everyone else on the planet.

Bernie Sanders? Homosexual wedding cakes? Really, that’s what you’ve got?


76 posted on 04/14/2018 11:46:13 AM PDT by unlearner (A war is coming.)
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