I was born and raised in the Hudson Valley.
It used to be considered upstate. It was a beautiful and peaceful part of the state many years ago. Republican run.
Cityiots moved in and ruined it by turning it into the hell hole they left behind. When I return to visit relatives, I don’t recognize it.
More than twenty years ago I took a ride up 9W along the Hudson; couldn’t believe how many Hispanics were in those rust-belt towns back then.