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To: Para-Ord.45; Lurkinanloomin; WASCWatch; odawg; TheConservativeTejano; montag813; Henchster; ...
And just today I heard about this article On theThe Dan Bongino Show this great article you started the thread on: Robert Mueller’s Beltway Cover-Up

An excerpt explaining how the Obama Administration was trying to cover its tracks in this. Fascinating stuff to those with an IT background:

"...And now some intelligence and data experts believe that the CIA cloud is how the Obama administration could have minimized its trail after unmasking US persons. “The NSA database, with its large and ongoing collection of electronic communications, can be accessed through the NSA’s cloud,” says one former senior intelligence official. The NSA can audit it and find out if analysts are violating rules. The NSA does not audit the CIA’s cloud, which is audited by the CIA’s IT people and Amazon Web Services employees who are given security clearances. Says the former official: “There are people in the CIA, the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, and the National Security Council staff who can move information from the NSA cloud into the CIA cloud. That seems the likeliest scenario to explain how Obama officials first unmasked US persons and then shared information without leaving a trail that could be audited independently, or immediately, at every step. Since unmasking, by itself, is authorized for lawful purposes, it’s the processing and sharing, as with Susan Rice’s spreadsheets, that tell us if the information was being misused...”

So, how I see it (my summary of the key part of this...if I am off base, someone will let me know I am sure...:):

1.) The NSA cloud is highly audited, and the ability to audit data is easier for many people, all they need is appropriate permissions and the audit trail is rich and audit tools easy to use.

2.) The CIA data is apparently not highly audited, or at least not to the same degree. AND, the ability to audit requires special skill sets, probably SQL query skills and knowledge of the database structure. FURTHERMORE, because that is probably fewer people, the gateways into the data are more easily guarded by select people whose loyalties are known.

3.) AND HERE IS THE KICKER: There are a very few, select key people in the CIA and NSA who have the ability to move data back and forth between the NSA cloud and the CIA cloud! FROM the cloud that is easily monitored and audited, SO...to get around people knowing who looked at what and when..."trusted" people in the CIA and NSA could be counted on to move needed data to where it could be unmasked and combed through.

Using the "two hop" rule under FISA where you can look at someone like, oh, Carter Page...see EVERY person he phoned or emailed, look at EVERY person THOSE people phoned or emailed, and then look at EVERY person they phoned or emailed. That sounds like a logarithmic rise in the volume of people whose communications could be monitored.

I think it also explains why Michael Rogers (Head of the NSA at the end of Obama's term) showed up at Trump Towers without telling his boss or his team, and within a day or two, word was out Michael Rogers was being fired for poor performance.

The very next day after that meeting, Trump moved his machine out of Trump Towers.

Rogers may have known all along what was going on and realized he had to save what he could of his own skin. Or maybe it was that audit he ran that showed a threefold rise in data searches in the highly audible NSA cloud from a recent volume of 10,000 searches per year, suddenly jumping up to 30,000 per year. He saw that, maybe he knew more...don't know. But he is the one who told Trump he was being spied on.

I think this is an extremely important aspect of this. We know better, but the left was able to get away with claiming Hillary Clinton was just careless and clueless about security, and bumbled into that stupidity. We know that it was malicious intent to hide official communications regarding the Clinton Foundation. In the same way, this shows clear malicious and sneaky intent to deceive by the CIA, FBI, and Obama Administration.

I think this is the biggest scandal in the history of our country, a largely bloodless coup attempt by the CIA, FBI, Outgoing Administration, and a willing media. We need to get this word out.

15 posted on 03/16/2018 9:21:57 PM PDT by rlmorel (Leftists: They believe in the "Invisible Hand" only when it is guided by government.)
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To: rlmorel

Bttt.

5.56mm


16 posted on 03/16/2018 9:25:53 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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17 posted on 03/16/2018 10:22:41 PM PDT by Para-Ord.45 (Americans, happy in tutelage by the reflection that they have chosen their own dictators.)
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Adm. Rogers may go down in history as the man who saved the Republic and rule of law.


18 posted on 03/16/2018 10:24:19 PM PDT by Para-Ord.45 (Americans, happy in tutelage by the reflection that they have chosen their own dictators.)
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To: rlmorel
I think this is the biggest scandal in the history of our country, a largely bloodless coup attempt by the CIA, FBI, Outgoing Administration, and a willing media. We need to get this word out.

Partner, we already know these guys especially the FBI and CIA were run by the biggest crooks of any presidential administration evah.

We want to know why these guys are not running around with shackles on their feet and wrists walking to a nice federal prison and hopefully for a long time.

As you have mentioned the right arm of the Rat party is the Fake News MSM, who will never report the truth of what happened during the America Hating Obama regime. Personally, you are doing more of the investigative reporting than the treacherous, lying, deceiving, and back stabbing MSM. Shameful for the MSM to say the least and probably one of the major reasons a lot of folks in this great country of ours is coming to our side of the criminal behaviors of the Rat party for the past 50 years.

I personally like Don Bongino since he talks straight and knows what he is talking about since he worked for the Secret Service in this country plus he is very conservative and we know he does not speak with a forked tongue as they say.

One of the major problems also are our own Rino folks and Romney fans who will not lift a finger to help out the Trump administration especially the Bush family. I hate to even call them Texas folks but they live in our great state of Texas.

We finally have a president who is not a politician and has been very successful in the business world plus the fact that he has some smarts is not getting the respect from our darling MSM.

Robert Mueller should be fired as the Special Prosecutor since we already know the collusion occurred by the Clintoon family and the Russians. Mueller is also spending a lot of money. Jeff Sessions is already gone in my book since he just does not have it to be the U.S. Attorney General end of story.

20 posted on 03/18/2018 5:00:38 PM PDT by TheConservativeTejano
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