Posted on 03/08/2018 6:25:13 PM PST by Helicondelta
South Korea has twice the population and 50 times the economy of the North.
They are capable of defending themselves. If they are not, then they better get started. It is no longer our responsibility.
This is an intra-Korea problem, an internal affair, NOT OUR BUSINESS.
Feel better now?
Yup!
How about another view of things:
Fat Kim and his cohorts are looking to divide and conqueror and suckering the U.S. into discussions that the North never intends to keep.
The South has a very Liberal Left President now that would give the North just about anything they wanted all in the name of “peace” (note the quotes).
And with the North issuing statements basically telling the South that their beef isn’t with their brothers but with the U.S. it’s a definite attempt to divide two allies and weaken their resolve to stand up tot he North.
It’s just another case of the North playing the U.S. to try and get supplies and take the heat off while they reload their rocket program all the while making promises they never intend to keep.
BEWARE ! Don’t let your optimism get to you. we’ve been on this road before.
“We need to downshift to realistic expectations, here.”
Your point is well taken; except there’s a new Sheriff in town.
He’s rewriting the book on what and how America wins at home and abroad.
Here’s the explanation. This is over: game, set, match:
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/971917397031604224.html
China will not let this defeat lay at its feet. They handed it to Rocket Man.
Anybody have an idea of the location of their meeting place?
No no no no. There is plenty of work. TRex has assigned them to the high priority job of working down the embarassing backlog of responses to FOIA requests. With all hands on deck there is a good five years worth of work to do there. And, "it's the law."
The “professional diplomatic apparatus” stuns easily, you know...
Yes, it's a combination of that, and an entirely erroneous buy in by them that their pedigree actually means something. It doesn't. Essentially I'm saying that politics is full of people of average talents but delusion-driven egos. It's a bad combination that prevents them from learning from their mistakes or actually assessing facts.
Sorry, but that doesn't make a lot of sense. The U.S. troops in South Korea are there basically as a tripwire. The real deterrent to NK using nuclear weapons for blackmail is that we will still have ours. And if the NK's "suddenly find" their nukes, we can put troops right back there if that's what we want to do.
The relative military balance between ROK and NK has shifted over the last few decades to the point where the ROK's are fully capable of defending themselves. If we can verifiably ensure that NK has gotten rid of its nukes and launch capabilities, then withdrawing U.S. troops and signing a permanent peace treaty is actually a win for us, for the ROK's and for NK.
I gotta be honest. I totally did not expect anything from Trump or the US on this point. My assumption was that N Korea would get a nuke/icbm this year. I didn’t think it was stoppable...and really and truthfully, I say that without any criticism of Trump. I just figured that is what would happen, and then he would have to contend with the aftermath.
If he pulls this off, I’m just going to be in awe.
Negations help if either you are in a position of strength or have something to barter or possess some knd of leverage. Isn’t this Diplomacy 101???
Sorry, but that doesn't make a lot of sense. The U.S. troops in South Korea are there basically as a tripwire. The real deterrent to NK using nuclear weapons for blackmail is that we will still have ours. And if the NK's "suddenly find" their nukes, we can put troops right back there if that's what we want to do.
The relative military balance between ROK and NK has shifted over the last few decades to the point where the ROK's are fully capable of defending themselves. If we can verifiably ensure that NK has gotten rid of its nukes and launch capabilities, then withdrawing U.S. troops and signing a permanent peace treaty is actually a win for us, for the ROK's and for NK.
That wasn't true decades ago when the ROK's really needed us there for our ability to defend on the ground.
Who is that supposed to be?
And they better have a hamburger waiting for him or no deal!
Thanks for the clarification - my error.
I think it gives Chubby Kimchi a level of stature he will use for propaganda purposes...Photo ops with the President of the US, most powerful man in world...He can spin it that his nuclear proliferation pays off...his
He may not have to worry abut re-election, but he is always worried about a coup—why he assassinated his brother, uncle, etc.
That said, I doubt he has read Art of the Deal, and I think Trump will out-maneuver him in any meeting—I just think it would be best to have it somewhere besides NK and with surrogates—at least until all is known of what Kimchi will give up...
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