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To: TallahasseeConservative
I have mixed feelings on this.

I don't...

I understand the mentality of rushing to the sound of gunfire, but on 9/11, we had fire companies from all over the city rushing to the trade center without being dispatched or approved by Battalion. We also had PD officers doing the same. Had their been a follow on attack or a secondary device or attack, we would not have been adequately able to respond to the second scene. Consequentially, we had multiple mos killed standing in a staging area, that they didn’t need to be in.

Didn't happen...And in no one's wildest imagination would those buildings fall down...And since Columbine, police depts. across the Nation have been training for incidents like the one in Fla., so they say...

From the performance of the BCSO, these SWAT officers could have been the victims of a blue on blue shooting had they rolled up in plainclothes with AR-15s locked and loaded.

I suspect from the years of training these SWAT members have gone thru, those scenarios have been covered extensively...

The kops apparently were waiting for the shooting to stop, hoping the killer ran out of ammo or killed himself...The top priority is that those guys in blue/green make it home safely after the fact...

What's interesting is that this crazed killer knew enough to stop shooting and remove his garb and blend in with the crowd before any cops showed up in the building...

54 posted on 03/08/2018 9:25:37 AM PST by Iscool
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To: Iscool

“I suspect from the years of training these SWAT members have gone thru, those scenarios have been covered extensively...”

It’s very well known that the uniformed guy makes the rules, the plainclothes guy had always damn well better do what the uniformed guy says.


59 posted on 03/08/2018 9:31:58 AM PST by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: Iscool

“Didn’t happen...And in no one’s wildest imagination would those buildings fall down...And since Columbine, police depts. across the Nation have been training for incidents like the one in Fla., so they say...”

What didn’t happen? I can tell you from first hand personal knowledge that units did respond from the Trade Center from areas outside of Manhattan without being dispatched. Also, the reason that NYPD only lost 27 officers, was that the NYPD aviation units were reporting structural issues with the building to the CP on the ground before the collapse and PD moved MOS away from the site. I am certainly not defending BCSO’s performance, but you just can’t have cops from neighboring jurisdictions rolling in without their commands knowing. Supposing one of these SWAT operators were wounded and unable to communicate, how would Miramar get them help?


60 posted on 03/08/2018 9:33:22 AM PST by TallahasseeConservative ( Isaiah 40:31)
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