[lastchance]

I support the baker and florist. But if a law against discrimination on the bases of sexual orientation passed this shop would not be in the same circumstances. They sell wedding gowns. There is no special artistic talent involved. Talent that requires the artist use his or her personal expression to help celebrate an event.

Both the florist and the baker were clear that they sold their ready made or even custom made items (if the event did not go against their Christian beliefs)to anyone, including people they knew were gay. It was clear that in their normal business dealings they never discriminated. It was only when called upon to use their artistic talent and to enter into a contract that they refused.

I do support the owner’s right to refuse to sell wedding gowns as she pleases and absent of a law regarding discrimination she is free to do so. But should the law pass she probably should not rely on any potential SCOTUS ruling on the baker and florist.

[Abby4116]

If wedding gowns are bought off he rack I'd agree with you. Most wedding gowns need a lot of alterations (artistic talent involved) so it is close to the same circumstances as the baker or photographer.

If a "bride" wishes to just purchase the gown without alterations, the shop should have to sell it to them.

[daniel1212]

They sell wedding gowns. There is no special artistic talent involved. Talent that requires the artist use his or her personal expression to help celebrate an event.

I am not so sure about that, while you mean a black of Jewish sign maker must be compelled to sell white robes knowing that are to be specifically for a KKK activity?

Both the florist and the baker were clear that they sold their ready made or even custom made items

And in the case of Jack Phillips not wanting to be an accomplice to a gay wedding, he was actually acting consistent with the state constitution at the time, as well as Scripture, unlike the CO civil rights commission.

[daniel1212]

They sell wedding gowns. There is no special artistic talent involved. Talent that requires the artist use his or her personal expression to help celebrate an event.

I am not so sure about that, while you mean a black of Jewish sign maker must be compelled to sell white robes knowing that are to be specifically d for a KKK activity?

Both the florist and the baker were clear that they sold their ready made or even custom made items

And in the case of Jack Phillips not wanting to be an accomplice to a gay wedding, he was actually acting consistent with the state constitution at the time, as well as Scripture, unlike the CO civil rights commission.