Posted on 02/23/2018 6:02:33 PM PST by conservative98
If you believe that rogue CIA and FBI agents are behind the massacre of children in our schools, then you are one sick puppy. It is outrageous.
I said my mind was OPEN to the possibility. There is mounting evidence for such a belief. You are free to pronounce whatever you like as “tin foil conspiracies” and label people who entertain the possibility of evil people committing evil acts as “one sick puppy”. And I have every right to consider the possibility that you are closed minded, blind, or a gov’t mole.
Mounting evidence? LOL.
This validates the old argument that a lot of cops were guys that were too chicken $hit to join the military. Yet they want to pretend they are military with the combat boots, haircuts, etc.... Stand around after the incident acting tough.
I do know there are a lot of good police officers that are brave and would run to the sound of fire and not coward. Many are veterans tooo. IMO cop jobs should be given to former military only. This is truly a disgrace.
The Sheriff of the county lecturing gun owners at the CNN event when it was his own officers that stood down while kids were being murdered. If that Sheriff had any self respect, then he would resign vs. blaming the Dana Loesch.
LOL? Read more and insult less.
Cowards.
We were trained to go towards the gun fire.
5.56mm
For someone who has been a Freeper for less than two years, you have a lot to learn. Espousing such nutty assertions puts all of us in a bad light.
Dropping judgmental ways about others and events before pondering other possibilities often shuts out a more informed reality, kabar.
Making assumptions based upon Freeper membership longevity is your choice. Dismissing possibilities out of hand with labels intended to smear and demean is also your choice, albeit imo, not a very nice one. One could argue that doing so puts us all in “a bad light”.
I prefer keeping an open mind by reading, evaluating sources, and entertaining plausible possibilities before shutting the mind’s door. It is in this way that one can learn and “unlearn”.
Cheers,
K.
But it goes beyond the pale to accuse rogue agents of being behind the school shootings. I doubt that Jim Robinson would support using his site to make such allegations.
>>I operate on the basis of provable facts. You cite non-existent evidence. And you make bizarre allegations that accuse rogue CIA/FBI agents of being behind the school shootings. Such allegations diminish all of us on this site. There is no doubt that based on existing facts, the leadership of the FBI and DOJ were engaged in corruption and deception threatening our electoral system and civil liberties. It is the biggest political scandal in our history.
But it goes beyond the pale to accuse rogue agents of being behind the school shootings. I doubt that Jim Robinson would support using his site to make such allegations.
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IMO, (and I do not mean this in any superior or condescending manner),you do have much to learn, kabar, more than I have the time and energy to address. Nevertheless, I will attempt to make a few points, and leave the rest.
You are again making conclusions based upon what you think I said. I did not “accuse”. I wondered, I suggested the possibility, but did not “accuse”. I am not in a position to accuse, only to wonder and suggest possibilities. There is a big difference there.
You think my thoughts serve to diminish you and whoever else you speak for on this site? Unlike you, I don’t profess to speak for all other Freepers, although there are others who share positions similar to mine. Please consider that others may think about your positions as you have expressed feeling about mine.
A person can’t get to the point of provable facts unless they entertain possibilities, which in turn, prompts research and discovery. There are numerous sites which explore and promote thought. I recall a time when on FR one could not criticize any Bush, yet now, years later, after new information has come forth, many hold differing views.
Some possibilities may seem bizarre to you, and I understand that. That happens to be my experience over the past decade. I did as you do, dismissing out of hand what I deemed “bizarre”. Yet years of reading, research, and thinking has caused me to check my rush to judgment, and in many instances, I have had to yield to a more informed position. This has brought me to today, now I initially check my inclination to judge or dismiss out of hand, do more in depth reading, and in many cases, reconsider initial impressions.
This experience is what forms the basis of my responses to you. If you are not at that point, that’s fine. But I encourage you to check judgmental pronouncements and do some additional research.
Thank you.
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All four should be FIRED. Perhaps prosecuted.
The Sheriff should be FIRED or resign.
This is a cluster of epic proportions.
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No, this is a SYSTEMIC failure. Better be more than 4 + 1 ‘going down’. Plus, I don’t see the sheriff ‘going quietly’, being the good little Leftist he has shown himself to be.
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Will anyone be held properly accountable?
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Like anything else govt, at best, they will ‘retire’ w/ full pension and bennies. Nothing more.
I worked with the police for 25 years. Your statement is erroneous. The cops never clean up the blood. The Fire Department does that.
DoughtyOne, thanks for trying to interject a bit of common sense into this and other threads on the subject. Anyone who has worked with the police for any length of time knows that in situations where shooting is actually going on... it always takes law enforcement a long time to figure out what to do. A lot of the comments on this horrible situation have been expressions of frustration and also people trying to assign blame to the first responders so that they can convince themselves that the “children are safe” where they live.
The problem here as you have pointed out in other threads is that nothing was done about the shooter before he went to the school and opened fire. Once he “snuck” into the school and started shooting people... tragedy was inevitable and the actions of the first responders was unlikely to have a major impact on the outcome.
These are Deep State operations aimed at disarming citizens. Period.
Unfortunately not much will come of this...they will get the pensions, the insurance company will make a few payments, taxpayers will eat it and a year from now it will be the families and gun owners still dealing with it..
Supreme Court Ruled Police have no requirement for individual..... Justices Ruled Police Do Not Have a Constitutional Duty to Protect Someone. Settled law unfortunately. Add in this was government property, not private property, thus you the individual and taxpayer have less than zero rights.
Ironic the 2nd Amendment was written to protect the individual which the Supreme Court explains in the above rulings yet we have Government telling us more Government is the answer to a complete government failure while restricting the 2nd Amendment is good and necessary... failures locally like this to 9/11... Government failures, citizens die and financially pay for it and the answers is take more rights away and add more Government Employees to solve it!!!! Ha!
Time to reduce the size of Government across the board... repeal the 16th Amendment and 17th Amendment... Government will go a serious reduction and the economy will grow. States will have to decide how big a Government they want, not the Federal Government.
Many Government employees such as this Sheriff will have to compete in the market economy...
This douche nozzle of a Sheriff is not fit to run a fork lift on a loading dock, yet he will retire better than most tax payers. Time to get Government out of the economy so people like this Sheriff are properly employed and have no responsibility for the rights and protection of others and have to earn their way through life and not hide behind a badge and some mythical “protect and Serve” union funded line of horsesh*t.
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Supreme Court Ruled Police have no requirement for individual..... Justices Ruled Police Do Not Have a Constitutional Duty to Protect Someone. Settled law unfortunately. Add in this was government property, not private property, thus you the individual and taxpayer have less than zero rights.
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This, I have (almost) no contention. We are SUPPOSED to be a self-reliant Peoples. Police\cops are there to do the things We ‘cannot’. Ties into my other point, below
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Ironic the 2nd Amendment was written to protect the individual which the Supreme Court explains in the above rulings yet we have Government telling us more Government is the answer to a complete government failure while restricting the 2nd Amendment is good and necessary... failures locally like this to 9/11... Government failures, citizens die and financially pay for it and the answers is take more rights away and add more Government Employees to solve it!!!! Ha!
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IMO, more nefarious that just 2x-talk. They use made up rights & privileges “compelling interest of the State” (WTF??) to INFRINGE upon our inalienable Rights.
Also given the Courts selectively cherry-pick which/when pieces of the ‘law’ they’ll ply their preconceived outcome upon; no care for\of the Constitution, let alone LOGIC.
EG: Aside from CONTROL, what ‘compelling interest’ does the State have to to keep We unarmed, if it ALSO has no obligation to respond to the need/call of the People (aka police)? Yet, any other entity would be so obligated (IE: gun-free stadiums, they are liable for security\safety)
IOW, govt wants it BOTH ways. The People at the mercy of govt; a full 180 on Federalism.
Thanks for the note of agreement. I agree with your thoughts there too.
"You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass. "
SO... removing the rifles would mean that....
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