Yes sir. From now on, I won't fire one deputy for being a coward, when I told all my deputies to be cowards. Instead, I'll bash the NRA.
Posted on 02/23/2018 6:02:33 PM PST by conservative98
I hadn’t seen mention of multiple shooters.
I had seen mention of a person walking with Cruz. Didn’t know what to make of that. Cruz had confessed.
When I heard of this person saying she’d been walking with Cruz, it was my take she was trying to exonerate him. I may have mistaken her intent though.
I appreciate the mention of these things.
...and links too.
LoL
>>he four deputies that hid outside the school did not follow proper procedures. Peterson was suspended without pay for dereliction of duty. Who knows how many lives and injuries could have been avoided if someone other than this coward had been at the school?
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I’m keeping an open mind about this. Seeing the photo of the sheriff standing next to his close bud, Hillary, makes me wonder if perhaps the liberal scumbag either gave a stand down order, or, his policies were to stand down.
Last night, someone posted on the Weekly Dose thread, a graphic showing after Sandy Hook, of the millions of Federal dollars that were sent to the town, and specifically which organizations all the monies went to. As I was perusing the distribution list, the thought occurred to me that rogue CIA/FBI agents might be behind all these shootings, but they also use the event to funnel tax dollars to wherever they want them to go. Sick, if true. I hope as the onion layers get peeled, it won’t get covered up, and that the electorate will get a raw view of the full extent of their nefarious activities.
That number seems quite prudent, especially with the tasks as mentioned. Thanks for the mention.
Parkland high school Multiple shooters confirmed Contains eyewitness account of multiple shooters and the ACTIVE SHOOTER DRILL.
Correct. However, I am not the Broward County Sheriff, the School Board, the FBI, Hillary Clinton, or Debbie Wazhername.
They made the rule, not me.
QUESTION: Were the Three Broward County Deputees Outside the School Shooting Given a Stand-Down Order?
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How likely is it that there were four cowardly deputies all standing outside the school during this madman’s rampage?
How is it that the neighboring police department officers were the first ones to enter the building?
Look. You sound snippy that I asked. We’ve read each other’s posts for a while, so you know I am not a dink or a troll, and I don’t think you are either.
I am simply saying that I find it non-credible that any non-police/military organization such as a school, hospital, or company would run an “active shooter” drill with the sound of active shooting going on. I have knowledge of what organizations have to go through to run things like an active shooter drill, and having the sound of gunshots to increase the realism is not one of them. Some people may have done that in the past at some point, but to do them now you have to have someone coordinate with either a training agency, local law enforcement, or both to both learn how to train people and conduct a drill, and always done in full participation with local law enforcement.
Not saying there might not be a company that does it off the cuff, but a school in a big, liberal district? I don’t see it.
BTW, I don’t believe that website on the first link is something I would trust as a source of truth (after reading the “about us” section at 153news.net...I got sucked in by one almost exactly like that on FR, so I am a little wary now) and the second one is twitter.
I think both of those may be useful for collaboration, but that is about it, IMO.
Also, I don’t trust personal accounts in those situations, either. One can speak to ten people and get ten different variants of an event.
I didn't mean it to be snippy. It was more of a joke on the old routine here on FR where someone makes a claim, someone asks for proof (links) and then they can't provide any.
I was glad you asked for links and was happy to provide them.
Thanks...I likely misinterpreted your post. Thanks for posting them, UCANSEE2.
I would agree. Might panic some students into getting hurt, and then there would be lawsuits.
I have knowledge of what organizations have to go through to run things like an active shooter drill, and having the sound of gunshots to increase the realism is not one of them. Some people may have done that in the past at some point, but to do them now you have to have someone coordinate with either a training agency, local law enforcement, or both to both learn how to train people and conduct a drill, and always done in full participation with local law enforcement.
Agreed. That brings up the question... WHO was running the ACTIVE SHOOTER DRILL and WHO did they COORDINATE WITH, and who did they NOT coordinate with ?
Did the Sheriff and his deputies know ? Did the principal ? Did the students ? Did the students know when it started, when it was over ?
Not saying there might not be a company that does it off the cuff, but a school in a big, liberal district? I don’t see it.
The Broward County school district is not just a liberal district, it is 'special'. Home of Debbie Wasserman Schultz.
BTW, I don’t believe that website on the first link is something I would trust as a source of truth (after reading the “about us” section at 153news.net...I got sucked in by one almost exactly like that on FR, so I am a little wary now) and the second one is twitter.
Agreed. But these were interviews taken right after the shootings, where these students had no motivation to lie.
Remember TWA 800 and how there was a video of something like a missile leaving the surface and hitting the plane ? Remember how there were tons of witnesses who said they saw the same thing ?
Remember how the media and government sent all that down the rabbit hole ?
I think both of those may be useful for collaboration, but that is about it, IMO.
A wise choice.
Also, I don’t trust personal accounts in those situations, either. One can speak to ten people and get ten different variants of an event.
True. But do you think that one girl is lying about walking down the hall with CRUZ ? Why would she say she heard gunfire then ?
These two females aren't the only ones that said there was a SHOOTER DRILL that day. IIRC, even David Hogg said there was.
Thanks for those links. I was satisfied with our exchange already.
Take care.
A lot of good these keytone cops did in drawing their guns behind their cars. The suspect merely walked out with the other kids and wound up having a leisurely lunch at a fast food franchise after which he was picked up sometime later.
Sheriff Israel needs to step down if this is the low grade quality of his department
We’ve been over this, so I’ll leave your comment as is.
Take care.
I understand what force protection is given 8 years in the military including a year in Vietnam. I also spent 28 years as a foreign service officer including overseeing embassy security in six different countries and working several years in DC in the State Department office that designs our chanceries and consulates. Security is an integral part of building design and construction.
But this thread is about four armed Broward County deputies who stayed outside the building rather than enter and confront the shooter. Regardless of the other "systemic" failures regarding procedures, physical security, etc., this is a human failure stemming from cowardice and an unwillingness to do one's duty. There is no excuse or fix to remedy their actions save holding them accountable.
There are many things that can be done to harden our schools and make them safer. It is a massive and costly undertaking.
A bridge too far. This is tinfoil hat stuff.
Eventually, little “tin foil conspiracies” are proven true.
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