Posted on 02/22/2018 2:05:08 PM PST by Grzegorz 246
Ruderman Family Foundation opens online petition, releases video showing people saying 'Polish Holocaust' in defiance of controversial legislation
The Ruderman Family Foundation, an American Jewish philanthropic organization, launched a campaign urging the United States to suspend its ties with Poland over that countrys law on rhetoric about the Holocaust.
The campaign includes a petition for suspension hosted on the NeverDeny.org website and a professionally produced video message. It shows men, women and children saying Polish Holocaust, which is supposed to be in defiance of the law passed by Poland earlier this month.
The law criminalizes blaming the Polish nation or state for Nazi crimes. Israel and several Jewish organizations, as well as the US Department of State and the French foreign ministry, protested the law. Yad Vashem, the Holocaust museum in Israel, also opposed it while noting that blaming Poles for the Holocaust and use of the phrase Polish death camps is unfair.
Ridiculing the law, one of the people in the film produced by the Ruderman Family Foundation an organization focused on facilitating greater inclusion for people with disabilities and strengthening ties between American Jews and Israel is seen standing in a bar holding a beverage while saying I wonder if they have been in Polish prison.
A mother sitting on a sofa with two children is filmed saying: Ill miss them when Im gone, referencing her imagined imprisonment. An elderly man is seen saying: No Polish prison scares me.
The people filmed then say that after 3.5 million Jews were murdered in Poland, including hundreds of thousands of children, the Poles have passed a new law. They then add: I will go to jail and: Repeal this disgraceful law now.
The website set up by the Ruderman Family Foundation for the petition does not say how many signatures it has gathered so far.
Crazy, Poland is the best European country and the most pro-American country in Europe.
One of the most pro-Jewish, as well. The guys who criticizing them are presumably left-wing, self-hating Jews.
Lets see how this works Germany attacks Poland and the poles loose. Germany then occupies the nation and kills millions of people. Poland is set free finally gets away from Russian influence and becomes our best ally in Europe. The Poles pass a law that states they had zero to do with what the Germans did on there soil and a large organization wants the USA to say that Poland is no longer our ally? Are you really that nuts, that paranoid????
Ridiculous.
Well being of Hungarian ancestry I dispute the first part of your comment But yes I agree this is nuts. And is the Polish government denying that there was a Holocaust/Genocide that took place in Poland during the war or does the Polish government take issue with the implication that it was the Polish people that were responsible?
This is what they take offense to....
Obama “Polish Death Camps”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXhlTKQufPg
The Europeans are going nuts over this because Poland refuses to take in Muslim refugees.
Almost all occupied countries (most of Europe) had at least one German camp.
https://www.thoughtco.com/concentration-and-death-camps-map-1779690
Poland’s had a rough ride in history. After centuries of Russian genocide and repression out of existence as a country, they’d barely spent 30 years of limited independence before Germany copied Russia. Germany used southern Poland for their interment camps, including for Polish Jews, because they ‘annexed’ it as their own territory, because they could. That shouldn’t reflect on a beaten and broken people, who’d endured their own holocaust, twice, and only knew true freedom and autonomy after WW2.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_Partition
“NO!!!” works for me.
I think its the latter. The poles bristle at the idea that they were complicit with the Germans. They feel they were occupied by ruthless thugs and most tried to do what they could while others did what they thought was required to survive. There are always a few cowards anywhere. The poles had it very tough. They were invaded first by the Germans then soon by the Russians who stayed for 40 years. Nobody should question them, after what they went through. And anybody who was 20 years old then in 46 is over 90 today. So there are no individuals to punish.
Let us be clear about what happened in 1939; Germany invaded western Poland and DIVIDED IT with the USSR, who invaded the eastern portion (in 1939) and committed the Katyn Massacre (among other things). Britain and France declared war only against Germany for the invasion of Poland, and when Operation Barbarossa started in 1941 the Germans discovered mass graves in eastern Poland of the USSR’s victims. The International Red Cross confirmed the deaths were from the Soviet occupation (based on the decomposition of the corpses and their clothing), yet the Allies continued to maintain the lie that the Nazis had killed them (FWIF, after the wall came down Russia admitted they did it). In addition to occupying the new Baltic states of Latvia, Lithuania, and Estonia in 1939, the USSR also seized part of Finland during the Winter War of 1940 (and again, no help came from the West to protect them from the Bolsheviks).
Basically, Poland controlled no territory in which to operate any camps, and they were 100% occupied - 1/2 with the Allies’ blessings. Unlike other occupied countries, Poland fought against the Nazis until conquered - then rose up in 1944 to throw off the yoke of Nazism again (and the USSR held their ground instead of helping). Any attempts to smear Poland with Holocaust participation are merely Western attempts to hide their own complicity in what happened throughout eastern Europe from 1939 through 1989.
Some individual Poles did some bad things towards Jews during the occupation, this is true.
But that’s no different than what happened in Holland, France, Belgium or any other Nazi-occupied country. Yet only Poland is singled-out.
There is a reason Poland had such a large Jewish population prior to the war, and attacking them with this is shameful.
Kazimierz the Great
“Today is history. Today will be remembered. Years from now the young will ask with wonder about this day. Today is history and you are part of it. Six hundred years ago, when elsewhere they were footing the blame for the Black Death, Casimir the Great - so called - told the Jews they could come to Krakow. They came. They trundled their belongings into the city. They settled. They took hold. They prospered in business, science, education, the arts. With nothing they came and with nothing they flourished. For six centuries there has been a Jewish Krakow. By this evening those six centuries will be a rumor. They never happened. Today is history.” - Amon Goeth (Schindler’s List)
Sure - and his reign was 600 years before. Plenty of time for Jews to flee hateful Poles if they needed to do so...
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