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1 posted on 02/21/2018 1:03:02 PM PST by Kid Shelleen
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To: Kid Shelleen

Nice work if you can get it.


2 posted on 02/21/2018 1:03:37 PM PST by dfwgator
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No wonder the pension system is in trouble. Politicians promising union bosses future benefits so the house would crash when they are on the golf course retired in Florid, with all the other NY pensioners..


4 posted on 02/21/2018 1:07:24 PM PST by 1Old Pro
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To: Kid Shelleen

I remember reading about a laborer who, on his own, put aside money like mad and retired a multi-millionaire.

- Rarely ate out.
- Took in a boarder to help with household expenses.
- Never bought cars new and drove them until they died.


6 posted on 02/21/2018 1:08:49 PM PST by fwdude (History has no 'sides;' you're thinking of geometry.)
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To: Kid Shelleen
I think it'd be cheaper
If I just got a job, learned to be a street sweeper.
7 posted on 02/21/2018 1:10:58 PM PST by csvset (illegitimi non carborundum)
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To: Kid Shelleen

Had a cousin who was a Lt. in the Buffalo Police. Made about $40k a year. After 20 years, retired. In his last year, he worked so much overtime he retired with a pension of $89k/yr.


8 posted on 02/21/2018 1:14:11 PM PST by FatherofFive (Islam is EVIL and needs to be eradicated)
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To: Kid Shelleen

I have been waiting for public worker pensions in the NYC area to become a national scandal. Hopefully, this is the start.

They need to be cut in half if not more.


9 posted on 02/21/2018 1:14:44 PM PST by WatchungEagle
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To: Kid Shelleen
When I was young I wanted to be John Lennon. But then I found out you can get a $285K a year pension for working in custodial arts.


11 posted on 02/21/2018 1:20:30 PM PST by plain talk
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Janitors in our local school district - ruined a decade ago by liberal-fantasy busing, so that now every white kid goes to a private school - belong to the AFL-CIO (I believe, or one of the big ones). They sat on their butts while our group rehearsed, but we were charged $1000/ month for ‘their services.’ There was never TP in the bathrooms; floors dirty; things in disarray. I am sure they get these pensions too.

It is so wrong.


12 posted on 02/21/2018 1:23:17 PM PST by bboop (does not suffer fools gladly)
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To: Kid Shelleen

When politicians want to buy votes from government workers they don’t care how much they cost.


17 posted on 02/21/2018 1:25:57 PM PST by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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Interviewer: [ quickly wraps the interview up ] Okay, Mr. Wilson, I think you're qualified for this job. How about a starting salary of $5,000?

Mr. Wilson: Your momma!

Interviewer: [ fumbling ] Uh.. $7,500 a year?

Mr. Wilson: Your grandmomma!

Interviewer: [ desperate ] $15,000, Mr. Wilson. You'll be the highest paid janitor in America. Just, don't.. don't hurt me, please..
18 posted on 02/21/2018 1:27:02 PM PST by dfwgator
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He worked 60 years for the same outfit - far longer than most employees anywhere; and in investing “time is money”. In addition to the compounding effects of earnings, he had contributions piling up for sixty years. Yea, the basic benefit calc itself is likely generous, but all those years - 60 - compounded just how generous it was.

In order to crimp some of the tier 1 pensioners from being as “blessed by the system” as this guy was, they’re going to have put in a mandatory retirement rule set not by age alone, but by age OR 25/30 years in the pension system already. Call it an “out by 30” rule. And set it for whichever comes sooner - age 65 or 30 years in the system.


20 posted on 02/21/2018 1:30:14 PM PST by Wuli
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He worked 60 years! He could have got a pension for more than he was working for, for many years.

In effect, he paid the city to stay on the job for about a decade or two.


21 posted on 02/21/2018 1:30:38 PM PST by marktwain (President Trump and his supporters are the Resistance. His opponents are the Reactionaries.)
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For total disgust, read Plunder: How Public Employee Unions are Raiding Treasuries, Controlling Our Lives and Bankrupting the NationNov 23, 2009
by Steven Greenhut


23 posted on 02/21/2018 1:58:13 PM PST by OregonRancher (Some days, it's not even worth chewing through the restraints)
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To: Kid Shelleen

Same thing happens in CA everywhere. This is what government unions and Democrat politicians do to taxpayers.


24 posted on 02/21/2018 2:01:35 PM PST by zipper (In their heart of hearts, every Democrat is a communist)
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To: Kid Shelleen

OMG!!! OMG!!! STOP THIS MADNESS!!!!


25 posted on 02/21/2018 2:50:01 PM PST by Ann Archy (Abortion....... The HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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How ‘bout we just get GOVT out of the conflict of interest they call ‘bargaining’.

Where else but govt can the negotiator and the ‘employer’ be the same?

- Terminate public unions

OR

- ‘Negotiate’ using a 3rd party.
- Use real-world figures/averages (be it current private pensions a/o 401K)
- Prohibit unions from ANY access to the pols and their election (no ‘donation’ of $$, time, man-power, etc.)
- Kill of the multi-employment laddering (work one job, retire, hired in another position to bump the $$ payout)
- ??

Course, #1 is optimal. Govt needs to be brought back to the REAL world; not of govt ‘accounting’


26 posted on 02/21/2018 3:10:30 PM PST by i_robot73 ("A man chooses. A slave obeys." - Andrew Ryan)
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I should have gone into garbage.


28 posted on 02/21/2018 3:16:29 PM PST by School of Rational Thought
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“Pensions like these are unheard of in the private sector"

No sh*t. The private sector has been economically gang banged for the past several decades. And everyone in government has been well aware of this epic double standard.

30 posted on 02/21/2018 3:21:22 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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