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I try to not bad mouth VETS, especially Combat Vets but I am going to have to make an exception here.

Were not JM Grandfather an ADM and Father a CDR or CAPT at the time he went to Annapolis, his skinny ass would have been either kicked to the curb or tossed aboard ship as a SA.
He played around in Flight School, ended up getting shot down and in essence really did nothing (OTHER THAN BEING THERE and at least he was there..have to credit him for that)
After shoot down probably could have had an ‘early out’ if he cooperated OPENLY but he probably didn’t. I wasn’t there and that is a small community and normally those that make it home don’t ‘bad mouth’ one another ...

While PDT may have been crude, he did hit the nail on the head when he basically said all McCain had really accomplished was getting captured (Someone who has NEVER donned the uniform in ANY capacity should be very careful when criticizing someone who did)

IMNHSO, McCain & Glenn got their USN/USMC ‘payback’ when they ‘walked away’ from the Keating Five mess.
And notice he was the ONLY R involved with 4 Ds...so his party affiliation has been in doubt for some time.

Interesting read is “The Nightingales Song’ by Robert Timber, (USNA-USMC- VN vet) which came out in 1995 and is about John McCain, Bud McFarlane, Oliver North, John Poindexter, and Jim Webb.-— All USNA Grads and VN Vets