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To: GraceG

Don’t be so condescending.

First, because WE wouldn’t need to go overseas if WE hadn’t so screwed the adoption system in THIS country, skewing it in favor of everyone but the people taking on society’s problem, and doing the adopting.

Next, it takes time for the anecdotes to filter through the parents network. It’s not like these countries admit what they are doing. Adoptions from twenty years ago until relatively recently were by and large, predictable. Now, in order to get past the ten year wait time, people will volunteer to take various, but specific, kinds of special needs kids they’ve concluded their family can accommodate, but then the kids they get have needs much greater than the scope of the receiving family’s capabilities.

The one thing I can assure you, after being involve in the process for almost 15 years and knowing what kind of vetting process these parents go through: the last thing they are is “dumb.”


33 posted on 02/18/2018 5:26:17 AM PST by papertyger (Bulverism: it's not just for liberals anymore.)
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To: papertyger

Exactly right, Tyger. When I was growing up, everyone knew a couple of kids who’d been adopted; it wasn’t unusual. And I don’t remember them ever being teased or taunted because of it. In a way they were viewed as special because of the trouble their parents had gone to. In fact my brother-in-law and his brother were adopted from a Jewish orphanage in the Midwest — a long-established place evidently well-known among Jews. But with the destructive growth of the abortion and legal industries, domestic adoptions became rare, sending desperate would-be parents overseas. It’s a shame.


43 posted on 02/18/2018 8:28:51 AM PST by Blurb2350
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To: papertyger

[[ But now, when they do, these countries are using them to dump their “broken children.” ]

And we are dumb as hell because we fall for it. ]

[ Don’t be so condescending.

First, because WE wouldn’t need to go overseas if WE hadn’t so screwed the adoption system in THIS country, skewing it in favor of everyone but the people taking on society’s problem, and doing the adopting.

Next, it takes time for the anecdotes to filter through the parents network. It’s not like these countries admit what they are doing. Adoptions from twenty years ago until relatively recently were by and large, predictable. Now, in order to get past the ten year wait time, people will volunteer to take various, but specific, kinds of special needs kids they’ve concluded their family can accommodate, but then the kids they get have needs much greater than the scope of the receiving family’s capabilities.

The one thing I can assure you, after being involve in the process for almost 15 years and knowing what kind of vetting process these parents go through: the last thing they are is “dumb.” ]

I wasn’t implying those parents who are adopting are dumb, they are doing god’s work, I am saying our country is dumb as hell for reasons you outline so eloquently. The policies we have for adoption are so totally insane as we kill our own children via abortion and adoption is used by other countries and their leaders to take advantage of our kindness to lower their internal welfare costs by offloading problematic cases into our people and our systems.

It is just like how Mexico’s welfare program is “Sneak into the United States”.


50 posted on 02/18/2018 12:47:15 PM PST by GraceG ("It's better to have all the Right Enemies, than it is to have all the Wrong Friends.")
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