Posted on 02/15/2018 10:37:13 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer
I am a trauma surgeon, and I've seen what AR-15s can do. There's no reason for civilians to own them.
An assault rifle is designed to deliver fatal wounds to multiple individuals within a short time period; it has no other purpose. The AR-15, the civilian version of the military assault rifle (M16 or M4), has become the most commonly used rifle in US mass shootings; the recent shootings in Parkland and Las Vegas, for instance, testify to the effectiveness of this weapons design. It was made for the military, to allow members of the armed forces to better dispatch multiple enemies in short order; in the hands of civilians, it not only clearly serves the same purpose for some individuals, but its unclear what other purpose it could serve, given how and why it was made.
Given that, there is no reason that these weapons should be broadly available to the civilian population. But, given that they are, lets all understand how they are designed to kill people, not simply to shoot targets for fun.
As a trauma surgeon for 40 years (and avid hunter for much longer), I am dismayed that we remain paralyzed over preventive measures. There have already been 18 school shootings in 2018, when one would be too many: This cannot remain a political issue when it is clearly an issue of common sense.
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I don’t know the first thing about guns or surgery. That’s why I asked.
Can anyone hear a jackass braying?
Can anyone hear a jackass braying?
Theres no reason for civilians to own them.
It’s the Bill of Rights”, not the bill of reasons. I would suggest the good doctor stick to over-billing patients and prescribing drugs that that you don’t really need simply because he owns stock in a pharmaceutical company.
It’s the American way.
Dr. Ernest E. Moore: YAFOSchiff!
This is not 18 “school shootings” in the sense that normal people think of school shootings.
Three drive-bys, a fight between adults near the school, and a robbery well after the school day: 5
University shootings (one negligent, two drive-by, and one drunken fight): 4
Suicides at a school or building that used to be a school: 2
Negligent discharges at a school: 2
Shots fired with no indication that they were intended to hit anyone: 2
Real school shootings: 3
Jan. 3, East Olive Elementary School
School closed at the end of the previous year. This is the parking lot suicide of a 31 year-old man; no connection to schools.
Jan. 4, New Start High School
This is a random drive-by shooting off school property that hit the school office.
Jan, 10, Coronado Elementary School
A teenager committed suicide at an elementary school; no one else was injured.
Jan. 10, Cal State University, San Bernardino
This was a shooting at a university parking garage. No one was hurt.
Jan. 10, Grayson College Criminal Justice Center
Criminal Justice Club advisor put his real firearm in a box so it wouldn’t be used by mistake during training. After he left the room, a student assumed the firearm in the box was a training weapon and fired it through the classroom wall.
Jan. 15, Wiley College
During a drive-by shooting in a parking lot, one bullet went through a dorm window.
Jan. 20, Wake Forest University
Football player from another college shot and killed at a party.
Jan. 22, Italy High school
This is an actual school shooting, the first of the year! A 16-year-old boy fired a handgun in the cafeteria and hit a 15-year-old girl.
Jan. 22, NET Charter High School
During a drive-by shooting in a parking lot, one bullet caused an “abrasion” to a 14-year-old.
Jan. 23, Marshall County High School
This is an actual school shooting, the second of the year! A 16-year-old boy shot and killed a 15-year-old boy and a 15-year-old girl, and injured 18 others.
Jan. 25, Murphy High School
A student with a gun threatened several administrators before going outside and firing into the air.
Jan. 26, Dearborn High School
Another drive-by shooting in a parking lot. No injuries.
Jan. 31, Lincoln High School
During a fight between adults outside a school, at a basketball game, one adult shot and killed the other adult.
Feb. 1, Salvador B. Castro Middle School
The story is that a 12-year-old girl brought a gin to school, didn’t know it was loaded, and accidentally shot five students. I would count this as a school shooting (#3 for the year).
Feb. 5, Oxon Hill High School
A student was lured to the school parking lot at 5:15 pm by an ex-girlfriend to be robbed, and was shot and wounded there.
Feb. 5, Harmony Learning Center
A third-grade student pulled the trigger on a police officer’s gun.
Feb. 8, Metropolitan High School
A teen fired a shot inside a classroom; no one was injured.
Feb. 14, Stoneman Douglas High
A former student shot and killed about 17 students and injured about 14 more, at a high school during the school day. I would call this the third school shooting of the year.
Three school shootings is more than I would like, but it’s completely different from 18 in six weeks.
My 7mm Mag is designed as a hunting weapon for deer sized game and larger.
The .223 is designed for prairie dogs and not legal for deer in man states.
Just saying.
Why would a company design a weapon to NOT be efficient?
All rental vehicles too, since ISLAMIC TERRORISTS can lease them
Can anyone find Dr “Gene’s” voter registration?
I have a ,22 Ruger clip fed rifle. It will fire at the same rate as an AR15. They both fire one round each time the trigger is pulled.
I know it's been a couple hundred years, but maybe this guy should reread history, there are such a thing as tyrannical governments.
Dr Jackass has never heard of The Constitution
He thinks it’s a ship off Boston Harbor
“An assault rifle is designed to deliver fatal wounds to multiple individuals within a short time period; it has no other purpose.”
Yes. And when you have multiple assailants threatening you, that “purpose” (you so scoff at) is the difference between killing all the bastards and watching your family being raped/murdered.
Sometimes you must be more violent and better armed than the scum to protect innocent people from the depraved.
Anyone must have the right to violently defend their family and property from violent criminals. 911 is NOT defense!
“What did he say that you disagree with?”
The essence of the article is “shall be infringed.” I would go with “shall not be infringed.”
Trauma surgeon, how many deaths have you seen due to knives, some knives are designed to kill as efficiently as possible, have you called for their banning? What's your position on drugs, alcohol, vehicles, pipes, clubs, hands, feet? All these thing can and are used to kill people and sometimes quite efficiently!
Oh and by the way, educate yourself, the AR-15 is not an assault rifle.
No, there haven’t. Twice, someone shot themselves on school grounds; one incident, on January 3, featured a man shooting himself in a former schools parking lot; on January 10 a teen killed himself in an Arizona elementary school bathroom.
Four times, a bullet was fired through a school or dorms window: on January 4, a gunshot was fired at a high school in Seattle through an office window; no one was hurt. On January 10, a shot was fired shattering a California State University classroom window. No injuries were reported. The same day, in Texas, a bullet was accidentally fired through a classroom wall at the Grayson College Criminal Justice Center. No one was injured. On January 15, a bullet traveled through a residential halls dorm room. No injuries were reported.
On January 25, a Mobile, Alabama, high school student fired a gun on campus. No one was injured. On January 26, in Dearborn, Michigan, shots were fired from a car in a parking lot; no injuries were reported.
On February 5, in Maplewood, Minnesota, a third-grader pulled the trigger on a cop’s gun. No one was injured. On February 8, in New York, a shot was fired inside Metropolitan High School. No one was injured.
Here are the cases where someone was injured other than the shooter:
January 22, Italy, Texas: a teenage girl was wounded by shots from a semi-automatic handgun. The same day, in Gentilly, Louisiana, a 14-year-old boy was injured in a shooting. February 1, Los Angeles, California: five children were injured in an accidental shooting. February 5, Maryland: a teenager was shot and injured outside of a high school.
The fatalities:
January 20, Winston-Salem, North Carolina: A football player was shot and killed. January 23, Benton, Kentucky: Two people were killed and another 15 were shot at Marshall County High School. January 31, a fight broke out at a Pennsylvania high school; a 32-year-old man was shot and later died.
So of the 17 school shootings before Wednesdays shooting; three students died; roughly 30-35 were injured.
Semi-auto rifles have been around for over a century - ANY are capable of sustained rapid fire. If it doesn’t have a magazine, and graduate of a shop class could probably make one that worked. The AR isn’t new.
Anyway, the only solution is to take ALL of them from the population. You think you’re busy now, Doc, well then you’ve got a BIG surprise coming.
A gun is just a tool, just like money.
I wonder if this Doc asks where the money his patients pay him came from? After all, if a gun (which is a tool) can be evil, then why can’t money?
Michael Savage has a poor grasp of history. He blames Pearl Harbon the US because the US embargoed oil and steel shipments to Japan in retaliation for their invasion and massacres in CHina.
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