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To: Boogieman
"Well, it is common practice to quantify the average attributes of a group, that is the nature of statistics. "

It isn't common to then slap any person that fits little more than a skin color with that

Can I take a math class with ten kids, 7 that have poor math scores, 3 that have good ones, average that out, and then tie that to the 3 that have good scores, to hell with their individual scores? Can I then transfer that average to any group of kids that take this same math class in the future in that particular room? Can I then take that average for that one class and then attribute that to people that physically share certain attributes to the kids in that original class?

Yes I can based on what you guys keep saying. And if you say I'm wrong I will just say: "If you have a problem with the science of statistics, I guess you had better take it up with the statisticians". You can play dumb all you want, but you know that people pushing this aren't some "huzzah science" geeks.

If you guys (that believe in this) want to take the individual test scores of the people tested, and say "the average score of the group tested is X", then fine. They took a test, their performance is their performance.

Where you guys abuse the hell out of this is when you then extrapolate out to assume that everyone of Y group will fall in Z range....despite them not having the luxury of proving their own performance, and then running with a narrative that you know is bulls*it as a complete picture and horrible unfair to individuals. In essence:



This man, sight unseen, is less intelligent than...



Because statistics told you so.
57 posted on 02/14/2018 11:27:38 AM PST by VanDeKoik
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To: VanDeKoik

Never knew they made front-butt pants, egad !


58 posted on 02/14/2018 11:29:24 AM PST by redcatcherb412 (Emerged intact.)
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To: VanDeKoik

“It isn’t common to then slap any person that fits little more than a skin color with that”

This is just more nonsense talk from you. Race is not “little more than a skin color”, that is just a leftist talking point you seem to have adopted. If that were true of race, then pathologists wouldn’t be able to identify the race of skeletal remains at a glance, but of course they can.

“Can I take a math class with ten kids, 7 that have poor math scores, 3 that have good ones, average that out...”

Certainly you could...

“...and then tie that to the 3 that have good scores, to hell with their individual scores?”

If you were doing this to hand out individual grades, that wouldn’t be the best practice, but this subsequent decision of yours would have absolutely nothing to do with the validity of taking an average that you spoke about in the first part of the sentence. Just as taking an average of any statistic of a racial group doesn’t necessarily have anything to do with the nefarious motivations you want to accuse everyone of in order to suppress them from doing that or talking about it.

“If you guys (that believe in this) want to take the individual test scores of the people tested, and say “the average score of the group tested is X”, then fine.”

Which is exactly what some people are doing, but you have not said “then fine”, instead you have been making all sorts of ridiculous accusations about them.

“Where you guys abuse the hell out of this is when you then extrapolate out to assume that everyone of Y group will fall in Z range....”

Who is doing that? The only one I have seen doing that is you, in your attempt to make a straw man of the people you want to rail against.


62 posted on 02/14/2018 12:00:15 PM PST by Boogieman
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