Posted on 02/13/2018 5:56:01 PM PST by SMGFan
I knew that didn’t sound right, I should of looked at the map.
LoveUSA, it sounds like you’re in the 15th, competitive, swung towards Trump after being a narrow Romney win and Obama win in 2008. There’s not even anything remotely funny about it’s shape so IDK what sparked your comment. My only problem with it is the presence of filthy 69% Shillery Allentown and it’s mini-me, Bethlehem, which keep it from being safe GOP, but those swine have to be put somewhere.
Harrisburg itself was stuck in the safe GOP 4th, where it’s polluted mutants who voted over 89% for Shillery have their influence neutered. Do you want to be a district Represented by a democrat from Harrisburg? I should as shiite wouldn’t! ;-)
Republican redistricters in 2011 should have placed Allentown and Bethlehem in the Scranton/Wilkes-Barre/East Stroudsburg/Easton PA-17 to make it even more Democrat (and thus make the PA-15, PA-10 and PA-11 safely Republican), but they wanted to place conservative Schuylkill County in the PA-17 because it was Democrat Congressman Holden’s home base (and they were afraid that he’d win even a GOP-leaning CD that included Schuylkill, as he had done in 2002 when he beat Congressman Gekas) and thus drew a CD that wasn’t all that heavily Democrat. The PA-17 actually voted for Trump due to the swing towards him on the part of blue-collar white voters in Anthracite Country.
But given that the PA Supreme Court has thrown out the 2011 maps under the ridiculous theory that taking politics into account invalidates districts created by a state legislature, the PA Legislature should have taken the opportunity to unpack the PA-17 and draw separate, comfortably Trump-majority CDs based in each of Scranton, Wilkes-Barre, Allentown, and Bethlehem. Sure, Gov. Wolf was likely to disapprove of the maps, but we know that he would oppose whatever map the PA legislature presented.
When I zoom out of the 15th it's a pretty consistent shape. When I zoom in tight on my neighborhood it has a little bump that covers just my neighborhood of about 100 people. Walk a1/2 mile north, south, or west and your in Lou Barlettas district. He's a Trump loyalist who's being called to run for US Senate against Casey.
You guys are right, it's not nearly as convoluted as some other districts.
My bad.
Horsecrap. You must be a shill. Its not bizarre at all when dems do it from time immemorial.
This is a naked power play by the communist democrats to overturn the will of the people. Why now? Already did three elections with the map. Wolf wants a dem map. Impeach him and the court.
More horsecrap.
The districts need to have the same population. You must split counties to get it done.
It is up to the states to draw the lines, not the Supreme Court. And that’s why state legislatures matter. Wolf should be impeached for trying this garbage now.
Absolutely!!!
Who says? Does your invented rule only apply to Republican maps?
Republicans have 34 votes in the state Senate. They can impeach both the governor and the Supreme Court. And should.
Yes
The problem here is that state supreme courts are getting involved, and the national supreme court isn’t likely to be blunt and tell them to just let it lie there.
I don’t buy this same population gimmick anymore. You have various California districts where ten-percent of the Census-counted folks are NOT US citizens. I can probably find Texas districts where a minimum of 5-percent of the Census-count were non-citizens.
You are correct that the census should count both population and citizens. Only citizens should be used to allocate the 435 districts.
However, in drawing the districts it benefits republicans since the illegals are in the cities, allowing us to have larger areas of noncommunists outside.
Agree state supreme court should not have gotten involved. That’s why they should be impeached.
I hope pubbies fight this tooth and nail.
We've both been freepers for a long time. Let's save the vitriol for the progressives.
Have a great day!
If you really wanted to make this interesting, since the 435 seats really belong to the ‘states’....then make up a rule that says when you allocate seven seats to a state (like Alabama)...then you just one big open election in the state and the top seven vote-getters represent the entire state. You could lessen the impact of some ‘fake’ district existing.
To be honest, the fact that I could be living on some street, and have my house in X-district, while my next door neighbor has Y-district, and the guy across the street is in Z-district....is a joke.
We are wasting tons of time and effort on this significance of the district and how each has to be constructed to help one party or the other, but population flow could harm one district or help another.
Sorry, just tired of the shills.
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