Posted on 02/10/2018 12:43:35 AM PST by Lera
Maybe you should be more concerned with the lack of wisdom and maturity displayed by people twice my age on these boards and displayed by their perverse and delusional defense of all things Putin - on a forum called “free” “republic” no less. Two things of which post Soviet Russia are not.
Instead of wasting your time on someone who probably could have outsmarted you in debate, foreign languages, and knowledge of the world at the age of 8.
Yes I could hold my own intellectually at a very young age in a variety of ways with adults. God made me the way I am and in the environment I grew up, don’t insult Him.
Oh I did not respond to that alcohol headline. The article was responding to press release given by government health organization likely trying to build up “successes” prior to March 18 elections this year.
It probably was stretching truth. Young people definitely drink less than prior generations though.
Alcohol has gotten expensive but there are dangerous subsitutes...
Other facts: Russian birth rate is lowest it has been in years and as of 2017: the HIV epidemic is at tipping point with 1 million registered. 1 percent of country’s entire population. Health experts estimate figures to be higher but not everyone knows or reports their status. (HIV in Russia started initially due to massive levels of heroin addiction.)
I did not mean to sound so condescending. Perhaps shouldn’t have responded at all, but sorry if it sounded as if I insulted your intelligence in attempts to tout my own. I respect you as a fellow conservative American.
Still think my frustration over Putin-sympathisizers on these forums are warranted, but don’t mean to sound so snarky when presenting my point of view. I should not return the rudeness many of them have shown me.
No problem here Rose. I do have a question for you though... why do you think the #1 conservative, pro-American website on the internet is full of Putin-sympathizers? Do you think they are un-American or have you considered the possibility that they may know something that you don’t?
Terry Mross’ “Putin vs. Obama” paradigm exemplifies the classic fallacy which gets many a person into trouble. Which is that:
“The enemy of my enemy is my friend.”
And you know what: people on this board need to be called out for taking this shameless path down to its logical conclusion, which is: they think they’re merely opposing Bush/Obama/Neocons, but in actuality, they’ve outright started to hate America and reject the American experiment altogether.
Just because Obama/Bush/Merkel messed things up, doesn’t justify outright rejection of America and dumping Western Civilization along with it.
Worse: it doesn’t justify praising the likes of Vladimir Putin, a man who still beats the heart of a Bolshevik and homo soviectus. Whose primary goal in life is to avenge the fall of the Soviet Union and restore the Russian Empire as much as is physically possible.
And I assure you:
Beating ISIS doesn’t keep him up at night.
Beating America does.
And sadly this is something many of his countrymen, even the kindest and friendliest among them, can empathize with.
There are many reasons for this, and you don’t even need to live in Russia to figure it out. Lots of worthy literature and sociological analysis of the Post-Soviet space to explain these sentiments and the power they retain.
His society is in spiraling decline and faces several mounting problems that far outweigh what we’re dealing with in the West. His ventures into Syria and Crimea and other foreign adventures were distractions designed to appease a growingly disenchanted and antsy public.
And unlike here and in Europe, Russia has no hope for free elections in the foreseeable future to change course! There are no checks and balances in Russia, there is no federalism in the Russian “Federation.”
For example: It’s Russia, not Germany, that has more of a Muslim overpopulation problem. And yet Freepers (who have never been to Russia) tout the exact opposite to be true.
The ONLY reason why liberals and hostile Islamic extremists were able to infiltrate the West was because people lost the will to love and cherish their civilization, their faith, and their contributions to history.
There is NOTHING laudable about betraying your country and your civilization just because you were unhappy with its current leader.
Shame.
Mariner and I do not tend to be cordial with each other, but I want to include him in this one reply.
Without going TOO into it: I would argue:
1) While past U.S. Administrations were not pursuing America’s “best interests,” the current one is.
2) And as the current one does and succeeds, the whole world, not just America benefits. This is not true when OTHER countries pursue THEIR “self” interests.
Because let’s face it, Chinese people’s freedoms have taken a huge hit under Xi Jinping as he pursues global domination. When he succeeds, his own people suffer!
Same goes for Putin and Russians, Iranian and Arab leaders and their people. Their leaders’ interests, are NOT their people’s best interests in the long run. (As the uprisings in Iran indicate.)
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Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin said it best, when he explained the principle of MAGA which is: “what’s good for America is good for the world.”
Our foundational principles are superior to everyone else’s, so when we actually live up to them, it ends up being to everyone’s benefit not just ours. And inspires people towards freedom rather than go against it. Other countries’ leaders and their agendas can’t boast of the same moral high ground.
Now you are on to Putin.
Why is it that anyone who believes that sovereign borders of Syria (and every other country) should be respected, is a Putinbot? Why are WE funding, arming and supporting AQ and ISIS?
I am aware that Putin is not a friend of evangelical Christians (I am one). Neither was GW Bush!! And yet, I don’t see him promoting color revolutions in the ME, which are quite antagonistic to Christianity.
(Putin not good/Assad not good) does NOT equal (we have a right to be involved in Syria)
Now. Don’t get me wrong: there is some truth to what you are implying about color revolutions not just in the Middle East, but elsewhere like Ukraine, Georgia, and other parts of the former Soviet space...but there’s been an equal amount of distortion spread by Kremlin operatives- so that when actual grassroots revolutions do happen even for right reasons, people are indoctrinated to immediately dismiss them as Soros NWO plots.
Soros and Putin may be enemies, but at the end of the day they are one in the same in terms of their destrucive influence...and Putin maybe moreso considering the immediate military powers he has at his disposal. Both grossly distort the truth of various national narratives to suit their sinister, godless, and hateful agendas.
As far as Syria goes: it’s a fine line dance we’re in with regard to the extent of our involvement there...but surrendering the situation to Assad + Iran + Putin and other powers that be, may hit us hard later on down the line.
Under what constitutional or legal authority are we meddling in Syria, Libya and the like?
If you dissemble in yet another response, the discussion is over on my end.
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