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To: logi_cal869

How is “Musk is no free enterprise success story”?
The guy has a personal goal, and is rebuilding industries and making boatloads of money to achieve it. Insofar as he’s “getting subsidies”, all he gets is tax cuts so he can use more of his _own_ money for the ventures (and generating _more_ tax revenue in the process).

How is “The mere suggestion that Musk represents anything Conservative whatsoever is truly hypocritical”?
His personal values may differ from yours, but upshot is he’s driving human ingenuity thru science, engineering, and capitalism - there’s nothing “not conservative” about what he’s doing. Insofar as he’s “getting subsidies”, he’s made clear he doesn’t need them, but would be foolish to not leverage $billions in tax credits when thrown at him. (You take tax credits when _you_ can, right?)


35 posted on 02/09/2018 5:56:49 AM PST by ctdonath2 (It's not "white privilege", it's "Puritan work ethic". Behavior begets consequences.)
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To: ctdonath2

Wow. Just wow. Then George Soros isn’t so evil after all.

Musk is an opportunist. If you’re telling me that it’s Ok to be promoting junk science to the benefit of marketing products (the core business, not the rocket side of things) and that the effects of the government endorsement of junk science is Ok with you AND Conservative...

...then I have some choice words for you dude.

I’m a space junkie, too, but I’m not emotionally-invested in the failings of NASA or the heavily-subsidized activities of Musk’s enterprises. The fact is that with proper leadership, these rocket accomplishments were ALREADY on the table at NASA but the agency faltered.

The fact is ALSO that the junk science in my own state has already resulted in higher utility bills, higher hidden taxes, higher gas taxes and, soon, a brand new $1k/year cap & trade tax. I’m not even going to get into the housing market problem and the jobs market which has my state overworked in low-paying jobs due to ANOTHER facet of government ineptitude: Healthcare.

Government overspending (including subsidies of ALL types), overregulation and overtaxation are anathema to Conservatism.

You made a comment yesterday supporting Rand Paul’s opposition to the OVERspending bill yet you support Musk’s taking the overspent dollars?

Hypocrite. That or you’re severely ideologically-challenged.

Musk is a major part of the problem and his little rocket side business is certainly no solution to anything tangible (free marketing to him is all).

You can take your emotional investment in a leech on US taxpayers and hypocrisy and put it where the sun don’t shine.


39 posted on 02/09/2018 1:07:55 PM PST by logi_cal869 (-cynicus-)
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To: ctdonath2; Simon Green

I just finished reading a biography on Musk. It was not written by Musk and he actually didn’t want it published.

Musk doesn’t take a salary. By law he’s paid minimum wage but doesn’t cash the checks. Everything he has is invested in his companies. He borrows against the stock to pay his expenses. His interest in money is so he can fund ever bigger projects to benefit mankind.

His companies are successful due to extremely enthusiastic employees and customers, not subsidies. People who only focus on subsidies to satisfy their confirmation bias are missing out on one of the greatest American success stories of all time.


42 posted on 02/09/2018 1:49:39 PM PST by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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