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To: Democrat_media

Tariffs do nothing to make American industry more competitive, which is the core issue here.

Tariffs penalize and are a tax on the American consumer and lower our standard of living. Tariffs are a palliative, not a curative, measure having the appearance of fixing something, but as with most government programs, actually make matters worse. Tariffs are like shooting yourself in the foot because the other guy shot himself in the foot.

In the meantime the economic confusion around the world including China drives stupid things like currency manipulation which changes nothing as far the as the value of a product, it just confuses the measure of that value. A company that undercuts its prices to win more customers at some point will have to stop or go under. Likewise, countries like China cannot sustain such stupid currency manipulation as a substitute for substantive competitive products.

There’s so much confusion surrounding this subject like the idea that per se, somehow imports are “bad” and exports are “good”. What stupid thinking.

The REAL cause of industry fleeing our country is GOVERNMENT in the form of high taxes, unconstitutional suffocating regulations, unconstitutional forced business-killing minimum wage, unconstitutional competitive-killing subsidies (bribes), and unconstitutional union protection. Tariffs fix none of those things. But doing away with those things fixes the problem allowing our industries and economy to take off, grow, and prosper mightily.


20 posted on 02/07/2018 1:49:36 PM PST by Jim W N
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To: Jim 0216
Jim, income taxes are a penalty on work that earns reportable income.

That is a far worse penalty than on foreign goods.

Free trade exists no where in the world.

You would rather incentivize putting people on welfare to have them buy foreign goods than gainful employment buying US goods? That is idiotic!

29 posted on 02/07/2018 3:53:37 PM PST by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: Jim 0216
Income taxes and free trade fix none of those thing, either.

So stop harping on why trade shouldn’t be taxed. It’s plain stupid and against what kept our country going for well over a century.

Bring down taxes and raise the tariffs.

30 posted on 02/07/2018 3:56:46 PM PST by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: Jim 0216
Tariffs do nothing to make American industry more competitive, which is the core issue here.

Competition does create better and cheaper products. Domestic competition is a good thing and this system worked perfectly until you Free Traitors™ screwed everything up.

33 posted on 02/07/2018 4:04:37 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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To: Jim 0216
"Likewise, countries like China cannot sustain such stupid currency manipulation as a substitute for substantive competitive products." ridiculous. The USA is a 3rd world country, 20 trillion in debt most of it to China.Obama who you agree with , the media and China destroyed the USA. the 20 trillion USA debt and the 100's of trillions in unfunded liabilities,medicare going bankrupt , infrasctucture crumbling, a House costs $300,000 when many people make $20k a year. and it's still going down . When the USA was on on top of the world in the 1970's after decades of technology increasing exponentially every year now the uSA is 20 trillion in debt and growing and you think that is progress? that is good with this "trade" with China? The USA is done there is no way to reverser the 20 trilion $ debt, the unfunded liabilities, medicare etc.

We don't need to trade with China at all .

It's not trade it's China waging a one way economic war , economic warfare with currency manipulation, stealing of tech, markets, manufacturing capability, government dumping etc.

You're wrong . dead wrong. I'm for a free market inside the USA.there is no need nor mandate in the Constitution to trade with China nor most countries.

I would put a tariff on China goods a very high one for starters then cut off all trade and have free trade no regulations no taxes except the tariff(As the tarrif was the only tax was in Early America for a century when America grew faster than all other countries ). no trade with China .with other countries some but none in Asia.

You agree with Obama to turn the USA into a 3rd world country.

Well at least you agree industry is fleeing to China. Not fleeing stolen. but you don't talk about the 20 trillion debt, the 100’s of trillions of unfunded liabilities, crumbling infrastructure, ssi and medicare ballooning, any one of these will destroy the USA. and you can't deny that so keep doing the same thing.

I'm for reducing regulations to zero. no government only military and border control . the only tax is the high tariff. you do need a tax for the military but i guess you think a socialist task like a progressive income tax or property tax(more socialism) is better right? Oh the tariff the evil tariff what has cause all the problems the media says .they say that to destroy America and you fall for it.

How to fix America. 1. Do away with all laws and regulations . Return to the constitution and the bill of right and amendments up to the 15th.

2.Add this to the Constitution. In dealing with domestic affairs The only laws government officials may pass are those that prevent the use of force(assault, murder, rape, trespassing,stealing, harnessing etc.,

3. the only tax a high tarrif on imported goods. the only functions of government are military, defense(economic as with the tarrif as well as military defense), border control

4. All laws have to be passed with a 60% of legislatures , sunset laws, and no regulations, no governemnent agencies doj fbi irs fda anyone want these? Public must approve by vote on each law 60%.

67 posted on 02/10/2018 9:17:24 PM PST by Democrat_media (Mueller doing coup vs Trump. Obama was adding 97,000 pages of government regulations /year)
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