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FISA memo contains major federal felonies, says ex-FBI official Kallstrom
Youtube ^ | Published on Feb 2, 2018 | Fox Business

Posted on 02/04/2018 11:55:05 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach

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To: Moonman62
TWA800 crashed because an electrical problem caused the center fuel tank to explode. The entire very long report is available for everybody to read.

Yeah right! And I have a bridge in Arizona for sale.

41 posted on 02/05/2018 5:19:11 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (The Obama is about to hit the fan.)
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To: OKSooner

Kallstrom, in his mid 70s and a big promoter of expanded surveillance power, has been promoting himself for FBI Director for a very long time.


42 posted on 02/05/2018 5:21:31 AM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Snarky comments just convince me that I’m right.


43 posted on 02/05/2018 5:22:31 AM PST by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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To: Moonman62

Ok, then here’s a question.

Have you ever tried to light a pan of kerosene?


44 posted on 02/05/2018 5:28:39 AM PST by ROCKLOBSTER (The Obama is about to hit the fan.)
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To: jonrick46

Could not have hit the nail on the head any better.


45 posted on 02/05/2018 5:31:01 AM PST by qaz123
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Mysterious questions also convince me that I’m right.


46 posted on 02/05/2018 5:37:12 AM PST by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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To: qaz123
You’d think the Left would be having a field day with that flow chart. Look at all those, White Faces. I think it needs more diversity.
Yea like a black President.
47 posted on 02/05/2018 5:44:05 AM PST by lewislynn
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To: Reno89519

There will be no prosecutions. None. They fully intend on continuing with these FISA related felonies, and as long as they keep it to people we don’t care about, we’ll go along.


48 posted on 02/05/2018 5:47:11 AM PST by Wolfie
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To: Moonman62
TWA800 crashed because an electrical problem caused the center fuel tank to explode. The entire very long report is available for everybody to read.

Yeah, the electrical problem was caused by a ground launched missile, witnessed by multiple people on the ground and in the air.

Kallstrom may be correct this time, but he's still dead to me, even if he is Rush Limbaugh's buddy.
49 posted on 02/05/2018 6:04:22 AM PST by BikerJoe
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To: Moonman62; elpadre
I didn’t forget. TWA800 crashed because an electrical problem caused the center fuel tank to explode. The entire very long report is available for everybody to read.

Not to go full-blown conspiracy theorist on you, but the CIA illustration showing the B747 losing its nose, then zooming up sevaral thousand feed leaving a trail of flaming fuel, in order to explain what the literally hundreds of eye witnesses say was a missile rising up and hitting TWA 800, was complete and utter nonsense just from an aerodynamics perspective.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwcSGbvM6yc

(And for those who don't remember, no, I'm not being paranoid when I said the CIA created the animation. That fact was made public when the video was released. Here is the CIA's version of the TWA800 investigation:)

https://www.cia.gov/offices-of-cia/public-affairs/entertainment-industry-liaison/twaflight.pdf

50 posted on 02/05/2018 6:05:10 AM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: OKSooner

Or head of the FBI

I’m good with either one


51 posted on 02/05/2018 6:47:41 AM PST by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: Yo-Yo

Not to go full-blown conspiracy theorist on you, but the CIA illustration showing the B747 losing its nose, then zooming up sevaral thousand feed leaving a trail of flaming fuel, in order to explain what the literally hundreds of eye witnesses say was a missile rising up and hitting TWA 800, was complete and utter nonsense just from an aerodynamics perspective.

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Really? The NTSB ran a computer simulation based on physics. What have you done?


52 posted on 02/05/2018 7:32:37 AM PST by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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To: qaz123
Because if going on a witch hunt, like this seems to becoming, more and more

Trump has been transparently ironic in his tweeting these things ... for nearly a year now. Who is the witch? ;)
53 posted on 02/05/2018 7:34:53 AM PST by Steven W.
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To: BikerJoe

Some of the best witnesses saw no missile.

Anybody with experience in the judicial system knows that witness recollections are inconsistent, so they give more weight to forensic evidence. The forensic evidence says the center fuel tank exploded due to an electrical problem, and the tank being filled with a combustible mixture of fumes and air.


54 posted on 02/05/2018 7:36:41 AM PST by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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To: Thibodeaux

I’d call it the plain and obvious truth, but I wouldn’t expect you to be able to see it past your fetish for senators.


55 posted on 02/05/2018 7:58:24 AM PST by chris37 (Take a week off racist >;-)
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To: Political Junkie Too; Fightin Whitey; Thibodeaux

Like ‘em!

Respect is earned, and so is disrespect.

Lets give Attorney Gerbil Jeff all the disrespect he’s earned.


56 posted on 02/05/2018 8:01:52 AM PST by chris37 (Take a week off racist >;-)
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To: Moonman62
Really? The NTSB ran a computer simulation based on physics. What have you done?

The NTSB used software not designed for the analysis required, and did so without input from Boeing, other than Boeing providing approximate weight and CG changes caused by losing the nose section. The NTSB ended up with a range of scenarios, none of which were represented fully by the animation.

NTSB Final Report, beginning on page 94: https://www.ntsb.gov/investigations/AccidentReports/Reports/AAR0003.pdf

57 posted on 02/05/2018 8:38:24 AM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Yo-Yo

The NTSB used software not designed for the analysis required, and did so without input from Boeing, other than Boeing providing approximate weight and CG changes caused by losing the nose section. The NTSB ended up with a range of scenarios, none of which were represented fully by the animation.

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If that’s true, then why hasn’t somebody done something better in the past 20 years? And as far as know the animation was done for demonstration purposes. It’s not part of the official report.


58 posted on 02/05/2018 9:01:31 AM PST by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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To: Moonman62
Sorry, Moonman, I'm not going to rehash the entire TWA800 case, but since you joined FR in 1999, you weren't here for the contemporaneous debate in 1997.

And as far as [I] know the animation was done for demonstration purposes. It’s not part of the official report.

You are correct, and that is precisely what Kallstrom's "sin" was, in trotting out that animation designed to discredit the eyewitnesses who described in documented FBI interviews a rising glowing object hit TWA 800.

http://www.flight800.org/eye2.html

I don't know if TWA 800 was downed by a terrorist in a "Cigarette" style offshore speed boat firing a MANPADS missile, or if an errant U.S. Navy live fire exercise accidentally downed the doomed airliner. All I do know is that TWA 800 was incapable of continuing to fly for over 40 seconds and to climb over 3,200 feet after losing its nose. It is aerodynamically impossible.

59 posted on 02/05/2018 10:00:05 AM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Yo-Yo

All I do know is that TWA 800 was incapable of continuing to fly for over 40 seconds and to climb over 3,200 feet after losing its nose. It is aerodynamically impossible.

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It is possible. The simulation matches radar data and the debris field. If it’s not possible, then come up with your own simulation. The naysayers have had over twenty years to do it.

The investigation was led by the NTSB and the final and complete report on the investigation came from the NTSB. If they wanted the FBI to continue with their investigation they would have said so.

Kallstrom is a Trump supporter now and is on the right side of the issue this thread is about.


60 posted on 02/05/2018 10:40:37 AM PST by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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