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To: markomalley

never did get the entire story on Otto.

Some said he was a socialist or had his trip susidized by some youth commie church group.


2 posted on 02/04/2018 7:39:39 PM PST by T-Bone Texan ( the entire)
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To: T-Bone Texan

my guess he was a spook in training


3 posted on 02/04/2018 7:45:31 PM PST by vooch (America First Drain the Swamp)
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To: T-Bone Texan
Wasn't there, don't really know what happened. But when you are in a country like NK, P's and Q's are a must. The NK not only want adherence to their laws, they want respect. I am guessing Otto didn't quite have the respect thing down.
4 posted on 02/04/2018 7:48:29 PM PST by super7man (Madam Defarge, knitting, knitting, always knitting)
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To: T-Bone Texan
Otto visited China and planned to study there in his third year of college. You can search "Young Pioneer Tours."

It was not uncommon for people to visit NK via China. It was reported on television that tour companies in China would heavily promote these tours there.

The tour company that Otto joined has discontinued trips to NK, since his death.

There seems no factual basis for him being a spy or a socialist. It appears at 22 years of age, he was out to explore the world.

7 posted on 02/04/2018 8:37:23 PM PST by World'sGoneInsane
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To: T-Bone Texan

Young Pioneer Tours, a Chinese travel company founded by a British ex-pat.


8 posted on 02/04/2018 8:43:27 PM PST by Rusty0604
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To: T-Bone Texan

“Never did get the entire story on Otto”

Exactly. He was detained by the NORKS on probably false charges of taking a poster (the only American in his tour group). The zero administration did absolutely nothing to try to get him returned. He languished for 15 months in that hell hole. The question is, what happened to him? Most definitely tortured. But how? It’s the first time it’s been reported his teeth were “mangled”. How long was he in a coma? And why did he die days after returning to the US? Was he euthanized when it was discovered that he would never recover? Too many questions and such a very terribly sad outcome.


20 posted on 02/04/2018 11:29:07 PM PST by Reddy (B. O. stinks)
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To: T-Bone Texan

The parents denied an autopsy then immediately started pointing fingers at what happened to Otto. Why no autopsy? Our coroner was all set to go. She was shocked as Hell.

I don’t trust the parents as far as I could throw them.


21 posted on 02/04/2018 11:49:03 PM PST by anton
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