[Ouderkirk]

I suggest that for every Ghanaian, or Gambian or Ivory Coaster or whatever that we require at least one American black to surrender their citizenship and go to one of these places....Let's see how quickly the change their tune about how wonderful Mother Africa is.

I've traveled a fair amount in Africa and in general, the entire continent is a shithole. There are notable exceptions, but they are few and circling the drain.

[ckilmer]

I was in south africa last spring with a church group. during our time in Johanessburg and cape town my hair just stood on end. It reminded me of the a time when I lived near harlem in the 1980’s. I walked cat footed on jungle feet in some neighborhoods. In others I had to move fast because the hatred was so thick and and the people were so predatory. south africa was the same.

we went up to zambia where there were almost no whites. but the combination of urban poverty unhappiness and predation was not there. It felt happier and safer.

If you’re going to be dirt poor —its better to be dirt poor up country in zambia than in the townships of south africa.