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1. Anyone who believes this somehow protects us against China is stupid.

2. Anyone who proposes it somehow protects us against China is evil, with another agenda.

3. Whomever made the proposal must be fired immediately. Today.

1 posted on 01/28/2018 5:07:10 PM PST by Mariner
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Futher info.
37 posted on 01/28/2018 5:45:34 PM PST by upchuck (Keep a sharp lookout. The best is yet to come.)
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I have no idea if this is true, fake news or a trial balloon. But I do know that free market private enterprise with its COMPETITION will usually produce far better results. Bypassing private enterprise in favor of a governmental one-solution should only be done in cases of rare TRUE natural monopolies.


38 posted on 01/28/2018 5:46:42 PM PST by House Atreides (BOYCOTT the NFL, its products and players 100% - PERMANENTLY)
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Axils lies. All the time.


42 posted on 01/28/2018 5:49:40 PM PST by savedbygrace
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So, the government will take the infrastructure that private industry built? That’s not a good thing.

As long as the government uses secure comms what do they care?


43 posted on 01/28/2018 5:49:41 PM PST by Vermont Lt (Burn. It. Down.)
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I agree. Sounds like fake news. Now I believe the feds might build one for military internal use. But not one for private sector... well, then it wouldn’t BE private would it?


44 posted on 01/28/2018 5:50:37 PM PST by SoFloFreeper
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1. Anyone who believes this somehow protects us against China is stupid.

2. Anyone who proposes it somehow protects us against China is evil, with another agenda.

3. Whomever made the proposal must be fired immediately. Today.

Sounds about right to me.

President Trump needs to stick with what he knows, and not fall for any abject silliness such as this. I mean really! Whose f-cking totalitarian wet dream is this? All in the name of national security, of course.

I certainly hope that President Trump doesn't go off the rails with some ridiculous garbage such as this. Let's hope it's a trial balloon, and let's all do what we can to pop it...

49 posted on 01/28/2018 5:53:51 PM PST by sargon ("If the President doesn't drain the Swamp, the Swamp will drain the President.")
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I’m not technical, but it sounds like a perfect way for Deep State to cut communications among all Americans. Flip one switch and it’s over. Scary.


55 posted on 01/28/2018 6:08:19 PM PST by MayflowerMadam (Have an A-1 day.)
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Way back when - long before the Internet became common usage, the French government built a “video text” device and systems to handle it on the phone network. Where is it today? Gone, like the Concorde.

DARPA could do something proprietary for exclusive government use on a separate military 5G network. However, most likely DARPA would merely farm out the R&D to the commercial sector, which would likely rapidly gain commercial use of the technology. It would most likely also be the subject of intense foreign spying activity on that development.


58 posted on 01/28/2018 6:15:10 PM PST by Wuli
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It is from Axios, which is about as reliable as Joe Conason or Paul Begala. Don’t believe it until a real news source publishes it.


59 posted on 01/28/2018 6:20:42 PM PST by djpg
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The cellular space simply moves far too quickly for the government to be able to do this in any kind of intelligent way.

What exactly is a "5G" network? Yeah, it has some meaning as a marketing term, but as a technical specification, it is somewhat lacking. The terms '3g', '4g', and now '5g' are really marketing terms more than actual networking/cellular specifications. What one carrier called 4g isn't really the same from a protocol perspective as another carrier's 4g. It's all just marketing speak that is supposed to denote rough equivalence. If the government does somehow develop and pay for a '5g' network to be built out nationwide, what will happen to this "5G" network 10 years down the line when the next big thing "6G" comes along? Will the government maintain the 5g network forever? Will they require future compatibility with same?

If the government wants to be concerned about telecom stuff, I'd recommend they point their big snoopy noses at SS7. Of course, the huge flaws we've discovered in SS7 allow the government to pretty much tap those circuits at will without any meaningful control or oversight, so they wouldn't be interested in helping get that stuff fixed. The fact that it also leaves us open to other snoops is just a minor point to the feral government that is of no real concern or interest.

60 posted on 01/28/2018 7:00:00 PM PST by zeugma
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Don’t forget the source. Axios is the child of some ex-Politoco guys, along with NBC and others.

This was probably just one of those “what if” discussions.


61 posted on 01/28/2018 7:06:23 PM PST by VanShuyten ("...that all the donkeys were dead. I know nothing as to the fate of the less valuable animals.")
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Horrible idea...

Let the market and the companies wanting to do it determine this.

What a dumb idea!


62 posted on 01/28/2018 7:39:45 PM PST by Enlightened1
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This is a Globalist wet dream.

They could spy on every phone and tablet in the United States.

HORRIBLE IDEA


63 posted on 01/28/2018 7:41:49 PM PST by Enlightened1
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For the record, I have never heard President Trump even mention this 1 time.

Chance are this is FAKE NEWS.

This would be something Hillary Clinton would do.


64 posted on 01/28/2018 7:42:55 PM PST by Enlightened1
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“An alternative plan where wireless providers build their own 5G networks that compete with one another — though the document says the downside is it could take longer and cost more. It argues that one of the “pros” of that plan is that it would cause “less commercial disruption” to the wireless industry than the government building a network.”

TOTAL HORSE$HIT ARGUMENT.

When has the government been faster than the private sector in anything?

These STUPID people are just learning about 5G and making a false argument. The Wireless Companies are already building 5G, and have been for a while now.

The 5G will begin roll out THIS YEAR. These government morons still trying to figure out something that already debated over 5 years ago.

IDIOTS!


66 posted on 01/28/2018 7:47:56 PM PST by Enlightened1
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... an unprecedented nationalization of a historically private infrastructure.
Not direct parallel, but see interstate highway system.
69 posted on 01/28/2018 8:00:53 PM PST by Cboldt
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This is where I probably split with a lot of people here. This is one of the few bug government type things I favor.


70 posted on 01/28/2018 8:10:42 PM PST by Behind the Blue Wall
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Like the gubment took over the healthcare system...and everyone’s healthcare costs went down.

I’m in.


71 posted on 01/28/2018 9:04:53 PM PST by moovova
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"Read the full memo below"

Yeah, read it sideways, through Axios' crummy viewing software.


73 posted on 01/28/2018 10:27:04 PM PST by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." --Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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Fake news. Axios Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Axios_(website) [Excerpt:] Axios (stylized as AXIOS) is an American news and information website founded in 2016 by Politico co-founder Jim VandeHei, Politico's former Chief White House correspondent Mike Allen, and former Politico Chief Revenue Officer Roy Schwartz. The site's name, based on the term Greek: ἄξιος (áxios), "worthy", officially launched in 2017.[2] Contents 1 History 2 References 3 Further reading 4 External links History In the summer of 2016, Axios secured $10 million in a round of financing led by Lerer Hippeau Ventures. Backers include NBC News, Emerson Collective, Greycroft Partners, and David and Katherine Bradley, owners of Atlantic Media.[2] Axios' initial launch partners are JP Morgan & Chase Co., PhRma, Boeing, BP, Bank of America, Koch Industries, S&P Global, United Health Group, Walmart, PepsiCo and Cooley LLP.[3] The NBC Universal partnership has featured Axios co-founder Mike Allen on its show Morning Joe.[4][5]
74 posted on 01/28/2018 10:31:01 PM PST by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." --Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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