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To: Claud

You also forget that the Catholic Church denied access to the scripture by the laity teaching that only the Church could interpret scripture. You had to be part of the club to study scripture and the club brooked no dissent or they tossed you back out to be with the unwashed. I’m sure that and the fact that most reformers met a grisly death kept a lot of criticism off the official record...


110 posted on 01/26/2018 5:20:36 PM PST by Mom MD ( .)
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To: Mom MD
You also forget that the Catholic Church denied access to the scripture by the laity teaching that only the Church could interpret scripture. You had to be part of the club to study scripture and the club brooked no dissent or they tossed you back out to be with the unwashed.

No you didn't have to be in the club to study Scripture. It was just extremely difficult because literacy was like what....10%, if that? And Bibles were fantastically expensive because they had to be copied longhand...with zero mistakes. I have Christopher de Hamel's book "A History of Illuminated Manuscripts" next to me....somewhere he crunched the numbers and figured out that the Bible in the Middle Ages cost about as much as a House. The Church taught Scripture by reading it from the pulpit, preaching it, and painting it on the walls of churches.

And you're dead wrong about the "reformers" kept off the historical record. Julian the Apostate was *despised* by the Church. We know what he thought and believed. We know quite a bit about Arius, Nestorius, and other early heretics. The Church had knock-down drag-out fights over these issues and kept records of who said yea and who said nay at the Ecumenical Councils.

142 posted on 01/26/2018 6:08:54 PM PST by Claud
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To: Mom MD
You also forget that the Catholic Church denied access to the scripture by the laity teaching that only the Church could interpret scripture. You had to be part of the club to study scripture and the club brooked no dissent or they tossed you back out to be with the unwashed. I’m sure that and the fact that most reformers met a grisly death kept a lot of criticism off the official record...

Not really educated are you.....the denial was AFTER the Prottys wrote several "interpretations" of what the bible really said.....they were merely trying to keep the nonsense out of the hands of the true Christians.....

750 posted on 02/07/2018 4:29:43 PM PST by terycarl (Logic prevails overall)
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