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David Toschi, 86, Detective Who Pursued the Zodiac Killer, Dies
NYT ^ | 1/12/2018 | NEIL GENZLINGER

Posted on 01/13/2018 10:18:50 AM PST by Borges

David Toschi, a colorful San Francisco police detective who spent nine futile years as one of the principal investigators chasing the so-called Zodiac killer, died on Jan. 6 at his home in San Francisco. He was 86.

His daughter Linda Toschi-Chambers said the cause was pneumonia. He also had longstanding heart problems, she said.

The Zodiac case, which remains unsolved and continues to fascinate crime buffs, involved a string of murders in Northern California in 1968 and 1969.

The killer sent taunting letters to newspapers, wrote messages in intricate code and otherwise tormented investigators. Officially, he is thought to have killed five people and wounded two others, although in one communication he put the number of victims at 37. That figure was discounted by the authorities, although some other crimes are thought to be linked to Zodiac.

Mr. Toschi (TOSS-kee) became involved in the case in 1969 when a cabdriver named Paul Stine was murdered in the Presidio Heights section of San Francisco. He was the last victim whose death was attributed to Zodiac and the only one killed in that city.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: California
KEYWORDS: btkkiller; california; garyfrancisposte; sanfrancisco; zodiackiller
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1 posted on 01/13/2018 10:18:50 AM PST by Borges
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To: Borges

So Ted Cruz is safe?


2 posted on 01/13/2018 10:22:26 AM PST by SubMareener (Save us from Quarterly Freepathons! Become a MONTHLY DONOR)
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To: Borges

A fascinating case which I have recently become interested in. Lots of documentaries, one of which a couple months ago ended with DNA samples being sent to the FBI for analysis using the latest technology. A 4 or 5 parter, I think on Discovery. ON DEMAND might be carrying it.

There are so many connections to different suspects, it really is interesting WhoDoneIt


3 posted on 01/13/2018 10:22:27 AM PST by A_Former_Democrat (Another Islamic terrorist event, and no “outrage” from the “Muslim community”. Again)
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To: Borges

The guy that played him in the movie did a great job. An excellent movie, IMO. One of the better ones I have seen in the modern era. Two of the scariest scenes I have ever seen at the movies.


4 posted on 01/13/2018 10:23:00 AM PST by beaversmom
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To: beaversmom

The 2007 David Fincher film? It was superb. One of those scenes was the lake scene right?


5 posted on 01/13/2018 10:24:46 AM PST by Borges
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To: Borges
Dirty Harry was based on him.
6 posted on 01/13/2018 10:26:24 AM PST by nickcarraway
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To: Borges

Yes, that 2007 film. The lake scene was of course very scary, as were some others, but the two that got to me even more was the scene with the lady, her child, and the tire, and the cartoonist in the basement.


7 posted on 01/13/2018 10:31:05 AM PST by beaversmom
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To: beaversmom
The guy that played him in the movie did a great job.

True, but he's a crazy barking moonbat in real life.

Wikipedia says Clint Eastwood's Dirty Harry was also based on Dave Toschi, but that may just be bragging.

8 posted on 01/13/2018 10:31:27 AM PST by x
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To: A_Former_Democrat

Was he ever considered as a suspect?

Was reading his obit where it mentioned:

“He was taken off the case nine years later after acknowledging he wrote and mailed anonymous fan letters to the Chronicle applauding his own work.”

Sounds very much like the personality traits found in volunteer firemen who set fires so as to gain notoriety in their response.


9 posted on 01/13/2018 10:32:23 AM PST by JohnG45
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To: Borges
History Channel has a series about hunting the serial killer.

It's pretty good, but the channel has also been trying to prove that Hitler died in South America, and they've been hunting for treasure on Oak Island for five seasons, so how likely are they to crack the case.

10 posted on 01/13/2018 10:35:21 AM PST by x
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To: A_Former_Democrat

Like Jack the Ripper...another one that fascinates.


11 posted on 01/13/2018 10:37:12 AM PST by beaversmom
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Mr. Toschi was a personality in the police department even before his involvement with the Zodiac case, so much so that Steve McQueen had borrowed from him for the fictional police officer he played in the 1968 movie “Bullitt.”

“They literally were filming in my dad’s office,” Ms. Toschi-Chambers said. “My dad took off his jacket, and Steve McQueen said, ‘What is that?’ And my dad said, ‘That’s my holster.’ And Steve McQueen told the director, ‘I want one of those.’ ”


12 posted on 01/13/2018 10:42:39 AM PST by beaversmom
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To: x

The show last Fall was good.

I really like that guy that was at the small college - has to be the guy.

But, I DID think the show had a “Finding Bigfoot” moment or 2 - mostly with the hole in the ground, and where the dogs thought there was cadaver evidence. Those were bogus excitement. A hole that’s 50 years old is not going to have solidified by now? A few maggots might indicate there is a 50-year-old body? Oh please!


13 posted on 01/13/2018 10:47:23 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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To: Borges

Many of the original investigators have died or are pushing the limits re a normal lifespan.

Rookies were not assigned to this case. The detectives were in their late 40’s to 50’s back then.

Some interesting “new comers” are taking hard looks at the evidence and using newer techniques to analyze the old data.


14 posted on 01/13/2018 10:48:39 AM PST by Grampa Dave (America had regime change 20 Jan 2017! ISIS collapsed! Are Iran/Our media, the DNC/FBI/DOJ/CIA next?)
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To: beaversmom

Yeah, Steve McQueen didn’t know what a holster was. Give me a break, lady.


15 posted on 01/13/2018 10:51:10 AM PST by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: x

“It’s pretty good, but the channel has also been trying to prove that Hitler died in South America, and they’ve been hunting for treasure on Oak Island for five seasons, so how likely are they to crack the case.”

Do they really want to crack the case. This is something like the Hitler and Oak Island Treasure that could be job security and good pay checks for decades.


16 posted on 01/13/2018 10:51:53 AM PST by Grampa Dave (America had regime change 20 Jan 2017! ISIS collapsed! Are Iran/Our media, the DNC/FBI/DOJ/CIA next?)
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To: beaversmom

I like that Swedish man who thinks he solved the Ripper case...Charles Lechmere (Cross)!

Forget the title of the show right now - it’s a series I record that’s more general, but one episode was about this Scandinavian journalist that did some research using newspaper accounts on the Ripper. Fascinating.


17 posted on 01/13/2018 10:55:02 AM PST by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs.)
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To: beaversmom; A_Former_Democrat

To me the identities of Jack the Ripper, the Zodiac Killer, and D.B. Cooper stand out among all the famous crime mysteries.


18 posted on 01/13/2018 11:45:47 AM PST by SoCal Pubbie
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To: the OlLine Rebel

That sounds very interesting. Years ago, when I was bored on a night or two, I would delve into the Jack the Ripper case or the Zodiac Killer. I find it quite interesting. I don’t guess either one will ever be solved.


19 posted on 01/13/2018 11:53:03 AM PST by beaversmom
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To: Kirkwood

Lol...good point. :)


20 posted on 01/13/2018 11:54:13 AM PST by beaversmom
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