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Tanker ablaze, 32 missing after collision off China coast...
France24 ^ | Jan. 7, 2018 | France24

Posted on 01/07/2018 1:31:05 AM PST by caww

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To: PTBAA

Transferring gasoline at sea seems like a fairly tricky proposition.

I am suspicious. We know that the Iranians and the ChiComms are cheating on the sanctions and delivering fuel to the Norks. I think this was a fuel transfer operation gone wrong.

The question is, did this happen spontaneously, or did this accident have help?


21 posted on 01/07/2018 5:35:29 AM PST by Haiku Guy (ELIMINATE PERVERSE INCENTIVES)
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To: caww

32 crew members missing, what did they do all rush into the flames when the flames started?

Something don’t smell right.


22 posted on 01/07/2018 5:52:36 AM PST by heshtesh
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To: caww

What is oil condensate?


23 posted on 01/07/2018 6:10:19 AM PST by Vinnie
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To: Vinnie

See post # 10


24 posted on 01/07/2018 6:21:18 AM PST by Robert DeLong
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To: caww

Thank goodness it’s not A USN vessel.


25 posted on 01/07/2018 6:21:52 AM PST by moovova
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To: caww
(Personally I think China took it down because it was headed to N.Korea.)

That's plausible, but the story says there was a collision. If the boat were to be taken down on purpose, why not use a torpedo? Ramming is so old school. Only the US Navy does that anymore (/S).

26 posted on 01/07/2018 6:49:37 AM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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To: caww

Prayers for all the sailors on the Sea.


27 posted on 01/07/2018 7:01:16 AM PST by mylife ( The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: caww

Global warming, carbon footprint, Al Gore prophecy coming true. The end is near.


28 posted on 01/07/2018 8:12:46 AM PST by Waverunner (I'd like to welcome our new overlords, say hello to my little friend)
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To: tinyowl

Yeah, maybe that “Oil Condensate” (gasoline? Kerosene) was going to be off-loaded to a Nork tanker somewhere and the South Koreans got wind of it. These are Iranians, right?


29 posted on 01/07/2018 8:40:06 AM PST by Tallguy
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Apparently, "Oil Condensate" is what condenses from high-pressure gas wells.

In an imperfect nutshell, the term "Oil Condensate", for ~legal purposes, describes product that is an unrefined oil that is not "crude oil", and therefore, not subject to US export laws regarding "crude oil" (as written), even though the stuff can't really be distinguished from light "crude oil".

30 posted on 01/07/2018 9:40:27 AM PST by Calvin Locke
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To: Justa
Yes the starboard midship of the tanker obviously collided with the bow of the Chinese ship.

The tanker was the give-way vessel (rule 16) in a crossing situation (rule 15) to the other vessel that was standon (rule 17). However being the standon vessel is a greater burden than being the give-way vessel. This is the infamous "SHALL-MAY-SHALL" nobody wants to get into.

RULE 17 Action by Stand-on Vessel

(a) (i) Where one of two vessels is to keep out of the way the other shall keep her course and speed.

(ii) The latter vessel may however take action to avoid collision by her maneuver alone, as soon as it becomes apparent to her that the vessel required to keep out of the way is not taking appropriate action in compliance with these Rules.

(b) When, from any cause, the vessel required to keep her course and speed finds herself so close that collision cannot be avoided by the action of the give-way vessel alone, she shall take such action as will best aid to avoid collision.

(c) A power-driven vessel which takes action in a crossing situation in accordance with subparagraph (a)(ii) of this Rule to avoid collision with another power-driven vessel shall, if the circumstances of the case admit, not alter course to port for a vessel on her own port side.

(d) This Rule does not relieve the give-way vessel of her obligation to keep out of the way.

31 posted on 01/07/2018 9:51:12 AM PST by USCG SimTech
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To: Candor7
Um, except that it was headed to South Korea? DOH!
32 posted on 01/07/2018 10:17:18 AM PST by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: Calvin Locke

So it’s ‘unrefined’ product? Gotcha!


33 posted on 01/07/2018 10:20:07 AM PST by Tallguy
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To: Tallguy

But still usable “as is”, to some degree.


34 posted on 01/07/2018 10:37:01 AM PST by Calvin Locke
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