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A monument to SC’s black Confederate soldiers? None fought for the South, experts say
The State ^ | 12/30/18 | Jeff Wilkinson

Posted on 01/05/2018 12:07:18 PM PST by DoodleDawg

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To: Bull Snipe
Not necessarily. A soldiers pension records would contain the date of enlistment and date of discharge.

To quote you. Not necessarily.

The standards for paperwork were a great deal looser then.

161 posted on 01/06/2018 10:25:37 AM PST by Harmless Teddy Bear (Not a Romantic, not a hero worshiper and stop trying to tug my heartstrings. It tickles! (pink bow))
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To: TallahasseeConservative

They didn’t fire on the ships. The Charleston batteries fired on United States Property, i.e. Fort Sumter.


162 posted on 01/06/2018 10:27:59 AM PST by Bull Snipe
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To: Bull Snipe

It stopped becoming US property, the minute SC seceded.


163 posted on 01/06/2018 10:28:53 AM PST by TallahasseeConservative
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To: Bull Snipe

And I suppose that firing on British troops on Lexington Green was wrong as well. At least the South seceded before the first shot was fired.


164 posted on 01/06/2018 10:30:00 AM PST by TallahasseeConservative
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To: TallahasseeConservative

The State of South Carolina deeded the island that Fort Sumter was built on to the United States Government in perpetuity. It was not South Carolina property.


165 posted on 01/06/2018 10:31:00 AM PST by Bull Snipe
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To: TallahasseeConservative

If they would have stayed in the United States, the Morrill tariff would not have become law.


166 posted on 01/06/2018 10:31:58 AM PST by Bull Snipe
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To: Bull Snipe

Lincoln got the war he wanted.


167 posted on 01/06/2018 10:33:16 AM PST by TallahasseeConservative
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

a slave could not enlist in the Confederate Army. He could serve with his master in that army if his master so chose.


168 posted on 01/06/2018 10:34:49 AM PST by Bull Snipe
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To: TallahasseeConservative

It must be a lonely and miserable existence to hold such rancor for your nation (I assume that you are American). Is there somewhere else that you would rather be?


169 posted on 01/06/2018 10:35:01 AM PST by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: TallahasseeConservative

So did Jefferson Davis. “War is the solution our enemies have chosen, and I say lets give them all the want” quote by William T. Sherman


170 posted on 01/06/2018 10:37:39 AM PST by Bull Snipe
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To: rockrr

I love my nation. I served her in Uniform in both the Military and Civilian worlds for over 25 years. Can you say the same? So now it’s unpatriotic to criticize a President? May want to take a look around FR. It is my firm belief that once slavery died a natural death, as it would around the world, the Confederacy and the Union would have once again become unified, much like Germany. More than half a million soldiers died and an untold number of civilians did as well needlessly. Lincoln has been turned into some kind of champion for civil rights, anyone who looks at his writing and ideas for the position of the freed slave in post war American society, will see that he was as “racist” as the men he made war on. All over the South, we see the radicals tearing down and dishonoring our ancestors, it is simply a matter of time before you see the guns turned upon yours.


171 posted on 01/06/2018 10:45:36 AM PST by TallahasseeConservative
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To: TallahasseeConservative
I love my nation.

You don't act like you do. You are entirely welcome to trash-talk whoever you wish. I am entirely welcome to call you out for your sillier expressions.

That's part of what makes this nation so great!

172 posted on 01/06/2018 10:49:17 AM PST by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: Bull Snipe

Find me an example of Southern troops violence toward the Northern civilian population during their time in Maryland and Pennsylvania. Sherman laid waste to Georgia in a manner benefiting his drunken character.


173 posted on 01/06/2018 10:49:42 AM PST by TallahasseeConservative
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To: TallahasseeConservative
Lincoln jeff davis got the war he wanted.

Fixed it for you.

174 posted on 01/06/2018 10:50:38 AM PST by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: rockrr

My dislike is confined to Lincoln and Sherman alone. Although my Granny hated Benjamin Butler due to the treatment of her relatives in New Orleans, wish I would have kept that chamber pot with his picture in the bottom....


175 posted on 01/06/2018 10:51:25 AM PST by TallahasseeConservative
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To: TallahasseeConservative

You’re getting your lost causer memes mixed and muddled. It was Grant who was supposed to be the drunk, not Sherman.


176 posted on 01/06/2018 10:51:55 AM PST by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: TallahasseeConservative

There’s that unbridled rancor again...


177 posted on 01/06/2018 10:52:35 AM PST by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: TallahasseeConservative

Your confusing Grant with Sherman. Sherman seldom drank.


178 posted on 01/06/2018 10:52:40 AM PST by Bull Snipe
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To: TallahasseeConservative
BTW: Lincoln's views on race were less "racist" than anyone from the south. In other words, his views were mainstream for the times.
179 posted on 01/06/2018 10:54:22 AM PST by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: rockrr

Davis didn’t order the call up of 75,000 men to invade the North.


180 posted on 01/06/2018 10:54:42 AM PST by TallahasseeConservative
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