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Wow. Where to even begin?

""Facts" which do not actually prove your case are a form of fallacy argument. Yes, your facts might be true, but that doesn't make your assertion true."

Yet somehow your spittle-inflected rantings are to be taken as gospel?

"Those statements might be true, but they do not however support your conclusions. We spent 21 trillion on the War on Poverty since then, and it has a lot more to do with the increase in drugs and crime than does the "war on drugs."

Thank you for that non-sequitur. You do realize that this statement actually reinforces my point, right? The $21T boondoggle known as the "War on Poverty" is another prime example of government run amok, outside any constitutional restraint, and ties in quite nicely with my example of the Great Depression: That debacle brought us FDR and the Bad Deal. And with that, went the Constitutional restraint on government spending MY MONEY.

"In the short 10 years between 2003 and 2013, over 100 police officers were killed in WOD related actions. Again, PUBLIC RECORD. And again, not proof of your conclusions.

Clearly it is proof of my STATEMENT: To wit: Billions of dollars and untold lives have been wasted in the war on pot, to little effect beyond expanding government police powers.

You also conveniently neglected the other FACTS provided (you insufferable pest) and somehow derived "conclusions" on my part which were never drawn...

As a subtle reminder: Here's my original post, to which you replied

"Just exactly the way it happened with repeal of prohibition, right? The great depression happened during the prohibition era. Billions of dollars and untold lives have been wasted in the war on pot, to little effect beyond expanding government police powers. These are facts. Make of them what you will.
What conclusions do my FACTS not support (You arrogant twit)? What assertions have I made, that I did not subsequently support?

This is the post (of yours) that I responded to with supporting evidence

"The only fact you mentioned was that Prohibition occurred during the depression, and that one wasn't entirely accurate either because it ignored the fact that it also occurred during the "roaring twenties" which was an era of amazing economic growth. The rest of the stuff you mention isn't "facts", it's just your opinion.

Support your arguments.

Love ya,
-Hugh

Yet somehow your spittle-inflected rantings are to be taken as gospel?

The spittle is in your imagination only. My demeanor is better described as "matter of factly."

The $21T boondoggle known as the "War on Poverty" is another prime example of government run amok, outside any constitutional restraint, and ties in quite nicely with my example of the Great Depression:

What do you think was going on with this "War on Poverty"?

Clearly it is proof of my STATEMENT: To wit: Billions of dollars and untold lives have been wasted in the war on pot, to little effect beyond expanding government police powers.

I have no idea how you are breaking out lives and dollars wasted on pot from the lives and dollars of the drug war in general. I would also suggest that perhaps you don't recognize the beneficial effect because you aren't looking at the issue in the proper manner. *Hint* (Logistical growth curve)

Support your arguments.

Convince me that you are amenable to reason and I will. I've had all too many of these discussions where it doesn't matter what you present, people are still going to believe what they want to believe, and so therefore I am loath to go to much effort when I already know what the end result is going to look like.