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To: Mariner

“The Conservatives I know don’t expect other people to pay to raise their kids.”

Conservatives I know don’t believe people should be punished for having children.

I’ll also bet you don’t know a single one who turns down a child tax credit for which they qualify.

If you do, you should start a conservative group that includes parents and singles, and the parents should voluntarily give a portion of their child tax credit money to the singles in order to make it fair. That way you will not need to rely on the government to right this wrong against you.

But, in reality, when parents pay net taxes, no one is paying to raise their kids due to the parents receiving child tax credits.

It’s funny how the liberal news media plays class envy games to stir up the public against “the rich” getting tax breaks. It is ironic to see someone claiming it is conservative to oppose one class (non-parents) not getting a tax break that another class (parents) does get.

We no longer live in an agrarian society, where having children increases the net income of families. Consequently, there is a strong economic pressure to have fewer children. And this is why the globalists are always discussing how economic progress will “help” reduce “overpopulation.”

Of course, their model of population growth reduction is based on the lies of limited resources and economic socialism.

How do people have fewer children in wealthier economies? Is it abstinence?

Mostly birth control and abortion.

If you are not pro-family, you will ultimately come down on the side of demanding people use birth control or have abortions. That’s not conservative.

People do not have a choice of being born into this non-agrarian society. Helping to slightly offset the financial burden on parents helps society as a whole. And it is well within the Constitutional purview of Congress to make tax laws that take such factors into consideration.

What conservatives should be focusing on is the immoral child tax credits being given to illegal aliens who pay negative taxes (i.e. get paid for being here illegally).


55 posted on 12/15/2017 3:04:52 PM PST by unlearner (You will never come to know that which you do not know until you first know that you do not know it.)
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To: unlearner

“But, in reality, when parents pay net taxes, no one is paying to raise their kids due to the parents receiving child tax credits.”

That is the only pearl of wisdom in your rant.

“When parent pay net taxes”, I don’t think anyone resent the Child Tax Credit.

But when it’s extended, via the EITC, every conservative with a mind is offended and opposed.

When it’s extended to illegals, it’s a crime. Especially when millions of Americans will see their taxes go up in this bill.

“Conservatives I know don’t believe people should be punished for having children.”

One of the dumbest posts ever on FR. Denying the Child Tax Credit would not be “punishment”. Already everyone gets a deduction for dependents of any sort. The fact they would not get a credit against taxes due being a punishment is ludicrous.

However, that said, there is value to crediting taxes up to the point of zero dollars owed (not beyond) for child rearing.

But nobody should believe for a minute it’s not a direct payment from the treasury and somebody else is paying for it.

Directly.


56 posted on 12/15/2017 4:03:46 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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