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Santa Barbara now under threat from wildfire as massive inferno spreads [trunc}
Daily Mail ^ | 12/10/17 | Keith Griffith

Posted on 12/10/2017 3:11:44 PM PST by BunnySlippers

The so-called Thomas Fire is only 15 percent contained, now threatening the city of Santa Barbara and the nearby coastal town of Carpinteria, and is on track to become one of the worst wildfires in California history.

It has already destroyed 583 structures and scorched 173,000 acres, the authorities say. New evacuations were ordered in Carpinteria, which been under fire threat for days.

The new evacuation zone extends within two miles of the Santa Barbara Zoo.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: california; santabarbara; wildfires
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To: SoCal Pubbie
I'm an ex-SoCal native...Born....there....

I moved in 97-98...to N.E. Okla...

I still have friends and family there...that I care very much for.

I hated the politics..of Calif. I hated the smog. I hated the traffic...But never wished anyone to die......

And I'm quite sure they will get the help they need........

81 posted on 12/10/2017 5:10:22 PM PST by Osage Orange (Watch your six.)
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To: dragnet2

The natural conditions of Santa Barbara, Los Angeles, Orange and San Diego Counties do not support the population that exists here. I’ve never argue otherwise. But that does not mean that a dry, semi-arid region is the same as a desert. As I posted, Madrid and Los Angeles get about the same rainfall annually. Neither were built in a desert.


82 posted on 12/10/2017 5:10:26 PM PST by SoCal Pubbie
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To: SoCal Pubbie

It is hyperbole. You have no stats, nor have you discerned what number that truly ONLY hates California politics and the Dims dominance of it. You conflate that to hate “California”. Gross error. Worse, you have no poll, stats or anything else as to any substantial number of Freepers want people to “die there”.

You cannot even get to those numbers counting comments on any one post about California. At anyone time there will tons more Freepers who make NO comment compared to those who do.

Your “I’m from there” skin is far toooo thin.

I grew up in Southern California. I have family & friends there. Are they like me, and hating many things about California? Yes. Hating all we do rightly hate about things that go on out there (Hollyweired and California Dims and there dominant politics) does not translate to “hate California” or wishing anyone there dead.


83 posted on 12/10/2017 5:11:50 PM PST by Wuli
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To: dragnet2

Chaparral is a shrubland or heathland plant community found primarily in the U.S. state of California and in the northern portion of the Baja California Peninsula, Mexico. It is shaped by a Mediterranean climate (mild, wet winters and hot dry summers) and wildfire, featuring summer-drought-tolerant plants with hard sclerophyllous evergreen leaves, as contrasted with the associated soft-leaved, drought-deciduous, scrub community of coastal sage scrub, found below the chaparral biome. Chaparral covers 5 percent of the state of California, and associated Mediterranean shrubland an additional 3.5 percent.[1]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaparral


84 posted on 12/10/2017 5:12:30 PM PST by SoCal Pubbie
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To: null and void

Liberals can ruin anything. I’m just sayin.


85 posted on 12/10/2017 5:12:53 PM PST by Boardwalk
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To: BunnySlippers

Any word on how all of these fires are starting?


86 posted on 12/10/2017 5:13:04 PM PST by BookmanTheJanitor
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To: Wuli

You sound like a liberal. “Where is your study!!!”

LOL.


87 posted on 12/10/2017 5:14:30 PM PST by SoCal Pubbie
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To: SoCal Pubbie

Look, if ya turn off the water supply for 12 months most everything people planted dies, what is left is a desert landscape.

Don’t believe me, just look at the early pics before the people came to S.CA and started planting stuff and bringing in remote water.


88 posted on 12/10/2017 5:14:30 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: SoCal Pubbie

I was told La Cienega is Spanish for “the swamp”. Don’t know how true that is...


89 posted on 12/10/2017 5:14:44 PM PST by null and void (The internet gave everyone a mouth. It gave no one a brain.)
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To: dragnet2

“What area? Most of the coastal plains of in S.CA are now concrete. So I’m not sure where all these agricultural areas are in S.CA.”

In the past. Not a desert. Semi arid, not arid.

SoCal coastal plain is around 14” inches of annual rainfall. That amount also charges a nice aquafir, for well water sources.

Desert in less than 9.75” annual rainfall.


90 posted on 12/10/2017 5:18:06 PM PST by truth_seeker
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To: SoCal Pubbie

What the hell is wrong with you? You work for dial an argument call center? Chaparral grows in deserts, and right in her S.CA as well.

How many times you been told, if the S.CA water supply is turned off, it goes right back to being a desert landscape inside 18 months!

Most everything dies will be in the process of dying. There is no debate here.


91 posted on 12/10/2017 5:18:09 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: truth_seeker
It's a desert...Don't belive me. Turn off your water for a year and see what everything looks like.☺
92 posted on 12/10/2017 5:19:47 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: dragnet2

Of course most would die, but it would not leave a desert landscape. A dry climate is not a desert. I’m sorry that you wont even read the descriptions I posted that describe the conditions before Europeans arrived. No one classifies the coastal area of Southern California as anything other than a mediterranean climate, one of four or five in the world. By contrast about 1/3 of the Earth’s land mass is desert.

These are just facts.


93 posted on 12/10/2017 5:21:32 PM PST by SoCal Pubbie
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To: Boardwalk

Don’t I know it! California should be heaven on earth, desert to redwoods, vast open spaces, mountains to rival the Alps, you could surf and snow ski in the same day, the central valley fed the world (or a good fraction), and then liberals came in.


94 posted on 12/10/2017 5:22:37 PM PST by null and void (The internet gave everyone a mouth. It gave no one a brain.)
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To: vooch

> Above Riveria, haven‘t had a fire since 1932.

I beg to differ; Sycamore Canyon fire, 1977; I got an up close and personal look at that one as a kid before the fire caused my parents to drive us out to the local Y to spend the night.


95 posted on 12/10/2017 5:23:14 PM PST by No.6
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To: dragnet2

You are simply wrong. Show me a map that illustrates the area between Santa Barbara and San Diego in a desert. I’ve posted over and over that it is a Mediterranean climate. Are you going to tell me that Madrid is in a desert?


96 posted on 12/10/2017 5:24:15 PM PST by SoCal Pubbie
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To: null and void

When do the mudslides start?


97 posted on 12/10/2017 5:25:02 PM PST by magua
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To: null and void

CA was the best thing going until about the late 70s or 80s... It’s gone straight down hill since. Very unfortunate.

And don’t let anyone ever tell ya more people mean more success. In CA just the opposite happened.


98 posted on 12/10/2017 5:26:34 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: magua
After the earthquake, DUH!
99 posted on 12/10/2017 5:28:45 PM PST by null and void (The internet gave everyone a mouth. It gave no one a brain.)
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To: null and void
and then liberals came in.

It wasn't just the libs. It was millions of illegals, millions of foreign nationals with their choking chain immigration policies. Of course the leftist help create this endless immigration disaster. CA was a great place when it had 10 or 15 million. I believe it's now over 40 freaking million.

They took the crown jewel of America, and trashed it. Very unfortunate.

100 posted on 12/10/2017 5:36:07 PM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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