Santa Barbara now under threat from wildfire as massive inferno spreads [trunc}

Daily Mail ^ | 12/10/17 | Keith Griffith

[BunnySlippers]

The so-called Thomas Fire is only 15 percent contained, now threatening the city of Santa Barbara and the nearby coastal town of Carpinteria, and is on track to become one of the worst wildfires in California history.

It has already destroyed 583 structures and scorched 173,000 acres, the authorities say. New evacuations were ordered in Carpinteria, which been under fire threat for days.

The new evacuation zone extends within two miles of the Santa Barbara Zoo.

[ProtectOurFreedom]

Citrus Fruits 2017 Summary (August 2017), USDA, National Agricultural Statistics Service;

Citrus utilized production for the 2016-17 season totaled 7.77 million tons, down 11 percent from the 2015-16 season and 56 percent lower than the record high production of 17.8 million tons for the 1997-98 season. California totaled 51 percent of total United States citrus production; Florida accounted for 45 percent, while Texas and Arizona produced the remaining 4 percent.

2016-2017 Stats:
California: 268,500 bearing acres of citrus, 3,948,000 tons, value $2.26 Billion
Florida: 410,700 bearing acres of citrus, 3,501,000 tons, value $1.03 Billion

BUT, Oranges rank only seventh among commodities in California (top 3 are milk, grapes, and almonds).

You wouldn't believe the miles and miles and miles of orange groves in Tulare County south of Sequoia National Park!

[ProtectOurFreedom]

I’ve NEVER heard of anybody managing the chaparral. It just cannot be done. Nobody goes into the steep canyons to clear the zero value brush.

Big lumber producing forests can be managed, but not chaparral. The best you can do is cut fire breaks through it. The native plants in the chaparral grow as they see fit.

I was hiking the steep canyons on Mt. Umunhum today (near San Jose) - lots of chaparral, manzanita, madrone, live oaks, tan oaks, bay trees, sycamores, buckeye, toyon, pine trees, coyote brush, chamise, ceonothus, monkey flower, and sage — most are high-resin brush. None of any commercial value.

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I remember it when the costal radar installation still had a dome.

The wild growth has had its benign low level fire cycle interrupted. It used to be a low grade fire would mosey through every few years.

Then the stewards decided that every fire, no matter how small had to be promptly extinguished.

Rather than never having more than a few year’s worth of dead brush, it was allowed to accumulate for decades.

[stars & stripes forever]

[I think the same is true for for those of us in Massachusetts.

People think all of ILLINOIS is CHICAGO. The crime is moving our way, but there are still conservatives fighting the good fight.

[ProtectOurFreedom]

They opened Mt. Umunhum as a new park in Sept 2017. The roads, facilities, picnic huts, trails, parking areas, and visitor station at the top are amazing. The rotating radar antenna on top of the concrete foundation building ended service in 1980.

[dragnet2]

At the rate it's going, it'll be the low wage servant class attending to the wealthy class in the areas where the homes are. The problem is, the servant class won't be buying homes.

So they need to keep building more and more of these 5 story apartment/condo buildings, and other complexes with hundreds of units. I call them civilian barracks. The traffic will eventually become all but totally gridlocked. They know this and that's when they'll force people out of their cars or severely restrict their use.

Bottom line, they allowed in WAY too many people in an area with limited space. In the future, look for S.CA landscape to be filled with 5-10-20 story buildings for the low wage servant class.

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About time!

[SoCal Pubbie]

Nah, I’m more like a nice Valencia Orange. Sweet and juicy.

[SoCal Pubbie]

Let’s not go there.

[dragnet2]

Spare me and stop with the chamber of commerce pics...lol. That’s not the LA basin or the area most known as southern CA, which is the area between the Santa Monica Mountains to San Diego. You know, where they’ve jammed in 20,000,000+ people...

I ask the open border leftist, if they all come here to work the fields, why do places like LA have millions of them, yet not a vegetable field in sight.

In other words, it’s nearly all concrete from the southern base of the Santa Monica Mountains south to San Diego at the Mexican border on the coastal plain. Look at a satellite map of the region sometime. In fact it’s so much concrete, it creates it’s own heat dome in the summer and actually raises temperatures slightly.

[dragnet2]

Spare me and stop with the chamber of commerce pics...lol. That’s not the LA basin or the area most known as southern CA, which is the area between the Santa Monica Mountains to San Diego. You know, where they’ve jammed in 20,000,000+ people...

I ask the open border leftist, if they all come here to work the fields, why do places like LA have millions of them, yet not a vegetable field in sight.

In other words, it’s nearly all concrete from the southern base of the Santa Monica Mountains south to San Diego at the Mexican border on the coastal plain. Look at a satellite map of the region sometime. In fact it’s so much concrete, it creates it’s own heat dome in the summer and actually raises temperatures slightly.

[Califreak]

IIRC, MS13 are Salvadoran.

[Wuli]

And those “numbers” are?

[Paladin2]

Intended as two totally separate sentences.

I’ve recently been advised that Salvadorian MS-13 are Mayan rather than Aztec.

[Locomotive Breath]

A 2015 "worst" fire in Lake County was caused by faulty hot tub wiring.

One of the worst wildfires in California history was blamed on a homeowner’s poorly rigged electrical connection to a hot tub Wednesday.

Faulty hot tub wire caused devastating Valley Fire, Cal Fire says

[Sivad]

What is God’s message to flood, tornado, and hurricane
victims? Are you God`s only press secretary or are you
a part of a committee?

[Locomotive Breath]

Except that you can’t swim in it without a wetsuit.

[gunsequalfreedom]

Are you in the area? Some friends had to evacuate but got word yesterday they could go home. They were very relieved. They had very little time to get stuff gathered up and no way to get all they wanted to take.

[5th MEB]

HEY; us folks up here keep pushing and hoping.

[5th MEB]

“Haven’t had a fire since 1932”.
You better pray, and know for a fact you have my prayers.
Fought wildland fires down there when I was a kid with the USFS Chilao Hotshots, I still remember vividly when the upper Big Tujunga exploded.
The only thing that kept going through our minds was the El Cariso Hotshots.
But we kept cutting line.