Mesa Police Shooting: Daniel Shaver Seen Crawling, Degging in Disturbing Video

CBS News ^ | 12/8

[NorthMountain]

You're wrong, again. "Uniformed jackass" is being excessively kind to this unconvicted murderer. Your failure to understand that invalidates your line of argumentation. You're attempting to defend the indefensible. You'll never succeed.

[dsc]

“A description that you don’t happen to like, doesn’t invalidate any argument.”

No, but the fact that it is untrue does invalidate that argument. It is simply false that all, or even a significant minority, of LEOs are jackasses who shoot people for no reason.

People really should outgrow adolescent rebellion.

[dsc]

You are making claims to all sorts of knowledge that you could’t possibly have.

You start with the assumption that all LEOs are “jackasses” who shoot people for no reason. You can’t get anywhere from there.

[NorthMountain]

You start with the assumption that all LEOs are “jackasses” who shoot people for no reason.

It's the correct, safe assumption these days. You and your "brother officers" need to clean up your act. You need to weed out the psychotic murderers (like this freak in Mesa) BEFORE they murder a citizen and get away with it.

[cynwoody]

And I don’t mean black people.

Once upon a time there was an apartment rental office in Boston which got caught coding certain of their listings with a German acronym, ks. Guess what it stood for?

[cynwoody]

The verdict should have been guilty of Murder I, and the sentence death. That cop just yearned for the opportunity to kill somebody and took it when he thought he had a good shoot.

David French wrote about the case yesterday:

Essentially, what the police told an innocent, law-abiding, intoxicated American was this: Follow my highly-specific, very strange instructions or die. There was no need to make him crawl. The police were in command of the situation. At no point is there a visible weapon. I have seen soldiers deal with al Qaeda terrorists with more professionalism and poise. When a man is prone, his hands are visible, and your gun is trained upon him, he is in your power.

[dsc]

“It’s the correct, safe assumption these days.”

Well, if you’re going to claim to believe that, it’s not going to be possible to have a reasonable discussion.

[NorthMountain]

Hah! That assumption is the basis of any reasonable discussion.

[southern rock]

Yes