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To: Reno89519

Um, my understanding is he was seeking a surrogate, not sex. Did new information come out that he was seeking sex?


26 posted on 12/08/2017 3:35:21 PM PST by piytar (http://www.truthrevolt.org/videos/bill-whittle-number-one-bullet)
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To: piytar

Apparently, yes. Read the linked articles. The staff interpreted it as sex, not in vitro. Plus, there is link offered upthread that said he might have backed off in vitro.


33 posted on 12/08/2017 3:39:23 PM PST by Reno89519 (PRESIDENT TRUMP, KEEP YOUR PROMISES! NO AMNESTY AND BUILD THAT WALL.)
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To: piytar
You should consider an important distinction between "sexual" and "orgasmic."

Surrogacy is not "orgasmic" but it is sexual by definition, since we procreate sexually. It's called sexual reproduction. Having offspring is a major part, maybe the major part, of human sexuality, of being a male or a female.

Having children with anybody other than your spouse violates the exclusivity of the vows and the meaning of faithful monogamy. Moreover, surrogacy divides women up into separate zones for exploitation: the vagina, the ovaries, the uterus, the heart and mind where the baby-mother bonding is formed. Divided up.

Surrogacy requires a psychologically "surgical" detachment between the baby and the mother who carries him in her womb. It amputates baby-mother bonding, or --- to use another analogy --- it starves it to death. It separates childbearing from maternal bonding, and thus separates the maternal womb from the maternal heart.

No way good intentions can justify bad actions. Surrogacy is de-personalization from the git-go: it intentionally, by plan, denies the baby's right to his primordial maternal bond, and leaves a wound on the soul of the deliberately-bereft gestational mother.

It doesn't matter if the person solicited to the scheme of mothering-without-mothering is paid or unpaid, an employee, a family member, a fertility clinic specialist or your former girlfriend. It's de-personalizing per se.

45 posted on 12/08/2017 3:49:29 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("God bless the child who's got his own." - Billie Holliday)
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