Are Earthlings alone? Half of humans believe in alien life

Reuters ^ | December 8, 2017 | Reuters

[plain talk]

Nearly half of humans believe in alien life and want to make contact, a survey in 24 countries has found, in what researchers said helps to explain the lasting popularity of the "Star Wars" franchise 40 years after the first movie was screened.

On the eve of the release of "The Last Jedi", researchers published findings that 47 percent of more than 26,000 respondents believe "in the existence of intelligent alien civilizations in the universe".

[adorno]

For the creator, maybe, but imagining what the creator must think is like a bacteria imagining what a human must think.

You might feel like a bacteria, but not me.

Whatever is the creator, or designer, did give us enough brain power to imagine bigger than we can be or do. We are creators ourselves, and we can imagine things that we hope we want to do, and we can imagine things that we know we'll never be able to do. Imagining things is not the same as having the power or capability to do them.

We don't have to imagine the universe, and we don't have to imagine life, beca7se they exist, and we can only try to reverse engineer those things. But, we can try to imagine how those things came to be, and thus, we can only imagine a creator (or magnificent and all-powerful designer), who did use powers and intelligence beyond what any human can ever achieve. The powers of imagination and our limited creation abilities, do allow us to imagine beyond ourselves.

Bacteria and germs don't need imaginations. Humans were created with brains capable of imaginations, which means that, whatever or whoever gave us those capabilities, did intend for us to have the power to imagine beyond our creativity.

[LouieFisk]

“No doubt, you have a Scripture reference handy to support that vain, hubristic, anthropocentric remark”
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Sorry, didn’t mention the Bible as a source. You’ll have to take your complaint to a guy named Fermi -
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermi_paradox

If you’re privy to some secret knowledge of little green men/women/trans on Pluto or whereever, at least pass it along to the folks at SETI and NASA.

[Neoliberalnot]

No doubt or disagreement with your post.

I was not saying what I felt like, l was making a point of difference between us and God.

[Neoliberalnot]

Of course you think they are out there. TV and movies

[GingisK]

No, there has been an overwhelming amount of actual evidence for many years, long before movies picked up on it. Those with prejudicial opinions will never even look at that evidence.

[GingisK]

Use the computer at the library. ;-D

[Neoliberalnot]

Look I’ve been a scientist for 4 decades. I’ve never, ever, seen this mysterious evidence. I have seen hundreds of claims, but no supportable evidence. The problem is that people in the contemporary world think they are so much more intelligent than past generations. They are not.

[GingisK]

I've been an electronics/software engineer for almost 5 decades. Most of my work was making scientific instrumentation. I suspect that I'm right there with you.

Many of the claims are made by very credible people, including military and law enforcement personnel. There is physical evidence, mostly collateral damage upon "our stuff". There are military people who, upon their deathbed, reaffirmed the authenticity of the Roswell crash. Crash-retrieval is very carefully performed. Artifacts could easily be stored "deeply" out of public view.

Take this from a scientific stance, then. You have never actually seen an electron; however, the evidence that they exist and behave the way we think they do is downright overwhelming. There are many things we believe from science, but never actually seen first hand. A whole lot of evidence cannot be ignored just because something physical hasn't shown up on YOUR desk.

Look at this one, for example: Train vs UFO

[Neoliberalnot]

I have watched the programs on the Roswell incident. Through experimental means we have tracked the movement of electrons many times, so that is a different deal. If the evidence is there for alien visits, why hide it? What is the point? It was decades ago.

As a scientist engineer, do you think it feasible to move through space for 50,000 light years to reach another world?. At light speed, matter and energy become interchangeable from one to the other, so, you can’t travel at light speed. Where would the energy come from to sustain live travelers for that length of time. Furthermore, why would aliens want to travel such a distance to this planet. I have seen too many science fiction movies to remember, but that’s all it is.

I will view the link you sent shortly.

[Reily]

It’d simple! Aliens travel here to do anal probes!
It’s a hobby!

[Neoliberalnot]

He is quite serious and many people with good intentions want to believe in aliens because it is an area that stimulates the imagination with seductivve thoughts of what if.....

[GingisK]

The reasons that the government hides this stuff could include any or all of the following: They don't want to admit that anything can enter and leave our airspace with impunity. ET contact WILL unhinge major portions of our population. They wouldn't want foreign powers to know we are actually in possession of advanced technology, whether or not we can master it. They don't want to upset the "know it all" science crowd.

It is certainly not feasible to move interstellar distances in a reasonable time frame with what we seem to currently know. We have, on the other hand, had "higher technology" for only around 150 years. Actually, only the post WWII era shows the most profound advances. I am not so proud as to think we have everything all figured out. There are bound to be some remarkable developments in the next 150 years or even 1000 years from now. Any culture "out there" that did not go through a Dark Ages is bound to be WAY ahead of our technology.

All things considered, the observations of those objects, deathbed confessions of those in the know, and the ET messages referenced by the NSA would tend to support the notion that we are being visited by someone who knows a crap load more about physics than do we.

Why would they visit us, you ask? Perhaps to make sure we still are planet-bound with our nuclear weapons. Why do we study apes? Why do we study worms? Same old story. A visit to this peculiar place may be like shooting the rapids on the Colorado river seem to us.

[GingisK]

I have watched the programs on the Roswell incident.

I have conversed with Jesse Marcel, Jr. myself. I have had long chats with air traffic controllers and fighter pilots. Watching a few programs on TV does not expose one to even a tiny fraction of the material available regarding UFOs. I have consumed years reading about this stuff.

As a scientist, do you actually feel that you have researched this topic as deeply as possible and from the direct sources?