[mairdie]

First encouraging thing I remember reading.

[monkeyshine]

Interesting. Though it has not been made public, the plan as rumored may have merit if Trump follows through and announces the move of the US Embassy to Jerusalem.

The plan, as rumored, gives Israel full sovereignty over Jerusalem. The Palestinians can put their capital in Abu Dis, the neighboring city. The Palestinian state would include some parts of the West Bank, all of Gaza, and also a large swath of land in North Sinai which is currently Egyptian territory. In theory the “land swaps” would come from Egypt, not from Israeli land.

This type of plan was advanced more than a decade ago during the Bush admin. I forget who it was that pushed it but if it comes to pass then I am sure his name will come back in the news. A plan like this makes a lot of sense because it would ensure that both Israel and the Palestinians will have viable, defensible states. All previous plans going all the way back to 1967 never worked because they were just two sides jockeying for leverage over the other. This plan, if it is pushed by the major power brokers, would break the paradigm of decades.

There should be no wonder why 1000s of diplomats will squirm as they have spent their lives concerned with ideas that cannot work. If this plan is made public and supported by Trump and the Saudis and Egypt, it will cause tons of outcry at first but ultimately achieves the stated goals of 2 states for 2 people. Those who oppose it will be exposed as wanting more war, or the destruction of 1 of the 2 states and people.

[familyop]

"While the Palestinians would not receive sovereignty over Jerusalem, they would be able to establish their capital in the Jerusalem suburb of Abu Dis."

Deadline two months from whenever the Saudi Crown Prince proposed it. Interesting. Looks like a step in the right direction. If it doesn't work out, they might perhaps be considered for someplace in sub-Saharan Africa.

[Gay State Conservative]

Surprising to see the Saudis as "reasonable" as this.IMO this is more proof that they understand that it's not Israel that's the enemy but,rather,someone else.

Iran

[PIF]

Shortly after the large celebrations in Western capital on solving the ‘Palestinian Problem’, the new state of Palestine began the large scale construction of military bases in the Sinai under the guidance of Iranian major general Soleimani and his al-qods forces manning the bases. Massive imported heavy weapons and long range missiles from Iran and Russia arrived daily ...

[SJackson]

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Another DOA peace plan. You can't make a treaty with an illegitimate government. Which is what a government with a President in what, the tenth year of his four year term. Anything agreed to can be reneged, on pretty good grounds.