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Climate scientists see alarming new threat to California
Los Angeles Times ^ | December 5, 2017 | by Evan Halper

Posted on 12/05/2017 9:55:33 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer

California could be hit with significantly more dangerous and more frequent droughts in the near future as changes in weather patterns triggered by global warming block rainfall from reaching the state, according to new research led by scientists at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory.

Using complex new modeling, the scientists have found that rapidly melting Arctic sea ice now threatens to diminish precipitation over California by as much as 15% within 20 to 30 years. Such a change would have profound economic impacts in a state where the most recent drought drained several billion dollars out of the economy, severely stressed infrastructure and highlighted how even the state most proactively confronting global warming is not prepared for its fallout.

The model the scientists used homed in on the link between the disappearance of sea ice in the Arctic and the buildup of high ridges of atmospheric pressure over the Pacific Ocean. Those ridges push winter storms away from the state, causing drought.

Because the model only projects future impacts, the study does not focus on the role melting Arctic ice may have played in the massive drought from which California recently emerged — the most severe in 1,200 years, according to one scientific study.

“There is lots of research to be done". “Hopefully we do it in time to allow people to plan for whatever may be coming.”

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: globalwarming; hoax; journalism; socialism
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bartholomew_and_the_Oobleck


21 posted on 12/05/2017 10:33:50 AM PST by pabianice (LINE)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

YAY!


22 posted on 12/05/2017 10:34:28 AM PST by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Using complex new modeling,...

Because the old ones never proofed out...

23 posted on 12/05/2017 10:35:54 AM PST by pfflier
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To: ProtectOurFreedom
Sorry, RJ. It is a “complex model.” You wouldn’t understand.

Thiers is not a complex model.

THIS is a complex model:


24 posted on 12/05/2017 10:48:11 AM PST by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: Eagles6

How doyou validate amodel that only predicts the future?


25 posted on 12/05/2017 10:50:20 AM PST by catman67 (14 gauge?)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Now I am STARTING to doubt the well-known FACT that AlGore invented the internet. Whoa is me!


26 posted on 12/05/2017 10:57:45 AM PST by Mark (Celebrities... is there anything they do not know? -Homer Simpson)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

More rain—climate change
Less rain—climate change
High temps—climate change
Low temps—climate change
Partly cloudy, Partly sunny, Snow, droughts, everything is CLIMATE CHANGE


27 posted on 12/05/2017 11:25:46 AM PST by skinndogNN
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To: butlerweave

Calf. had record rainfall last year ending several years of near drought conditions.


28 posted on 12/05/2017 11:30:10 AM PST by Pietro
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The existence of people outside the borders of California is causing a drought that will only affect California. That’s an interesting prediction.


29 posted on 12/05/2017 11:37:17 AM PST by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." --Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The existence of people outside the borders of California is causing a drought that will only affect California. That’s an interesting prediction.


30 posted on 12/05/2017 11:37:19 AM PST by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." --Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

California’s water conservation has caused the drought. By not allowing citizens to keep their water running while brushing teeth, there has been a lack of evaporation which has prevented rain from falling.

My models say so


31 posted on 12/05/2017 11:40:55 AM PST by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

How about a 50 cents a gallon tax on water to encourage conservation....Id rather the next governor, Gavin Newsome, pass that though. I want a good reason to rip him to all Brown-Newsome loving libs in my family.


32 posted on 12/05/2017 12:10:39 PM PST by Angels27
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To: skinndogNN

And there’s only one way to combat that pernicious climate change!


33 posted on 12/05/2017 12:12:42 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

In 20 or 30 a dought stricken California will be a Mexico problem since LaRaza will claim the southern half of the state...


34 posted on 12/05/2017 12:27:48 PM PST by Popman (My sin was great, Your love was greater  What could separate us now…)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
California could be hit with significantly more dangerous and more frequent droughts in the near future as changes in weather patterns triggered by global warming block rainfall from reaching the state, according to new research led by scientists at Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory.

There is zero evidence that changes in weather patterns in California are "triggered" by global warming.

Blaming predictable and recurring weather conditions on humankind is nonsense.

What is wrong with these people?

35 posted on 12/05/2017 12:34:35 PM PST by olezip
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“Using complex new modeling”

Not empirical data, more mere statistical correlations, and with which not-considered climate and weather variables left out?


36 posted on 12/05/2017 12:35:53 PM PST by Wuli
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To: olezip

There’s been a couple skits about dihydrogen oxide poisoning.

The irony here is that water vapor IS the cause of warming, if there was ever a cause. CO2 is heavier than air. That’s why there is phytoplankton and plants in the oceans.

As such, these idiots are literally trapsing across the countryside ululating about the horrors of dihydrogen oxide contamination of the atmosphere.

They want to ban rain, fog, mist, and if you give today, maybe one day we’ll shut down the whole cycle of dihydrogen oxide contamination in our atmosphere for good.


37 posted on 12/05/2017 12:40:23 PM PST by RinaseaofDs (Truth, in a time of universal deceit, is courage)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

In 20 or 30 drought stricken California will be a Mexico problem since LaRaza will claim the southern half of the state...


38 posted on 12/05/2017 1:28:09 PM PST by Popman (My sin was great, Your love was greater  What could separate us now…)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Ummm....Where was that dam that was SO full of water they thought it could burst

Just last spring???


39 posted on 12/05/2017 1:36:13 PM PST by Oscar in Batangas (12:01 PM 1/20/2017...The end of an error.)
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To: butlerweave

At this point I honestly don’t give a damn what happens to California.


40 posted on 12/05/2017 1:47:09 PM PST by Hardastarboard (Three most annoying words on the internet - "Watch the Video")
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