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Can't Kill Enough to Win? Think Again
US Naval Institute ^ | December 2017 | LTC David Boliano and LTC John Taylor

Posted on 12/03/2017 7:12:18 PM PST by Rummyfan

When is the United States going to do the killing necessary to beat its terrorist enemies or eliminate them entirely? Those given the awful task of combat must be able to act with the necessary savagery and purposefulness to destroy those acting as, or in direct support of, Islamic terrorists worldwide. In 2008, then-Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Navy Admiral Michael Mullen said, “We can’t kill our way to victory.” Ever since, many have parroted his words. But what if Admiral Mullen was wrong? The United States has been at war with radical Islamists four times longer than it was with Nazi Germany and Imperial Japan in World War II. And those previous enemies were far more competent and aggressive than the terrorists. It is time to kill a lot more of them.

Too many commanders and their “operational law” judge advocates have neutered U.S. military forces with far too restrictive rules of engagement and investigations. 1 One Army infantry battalion commander reported that during a 15-month command tour in Iraq, he had to endure 600 AR 15-6 investigations (equivalent to a Navy JAG manual investigation), most of which examined the use of force by his troops. When asked when he had time to command, he answered, “Exactly.”

Human behavior has not changed much in recorded history. Neither have the basic tenets of war. It takes killing with speed and sustained effect to win wars. The notions that the U.S. military can win with “precision strikes” or “winning hearts and minds” are fantasy. Even the great victory in Operation Desert Storm was a bloody killing field. Just ask the remnants of the Tawakalna Division of the Iraqi Army.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: counterterrorism; gwot; trumpgwot; usmilitary
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To: PGalt

Amazing that ISIS is a bunch of muslims who are willing to kill themselves to see to it their Kahlif be worshiped. athis is why Obama liked ISIS and ISIS was not exactly a JV team but a pilot program of some sort. It is amazing to see people indoctrinated like this to not fight for a revolution overthrowing a tyranny but to establish one, much in line with Nazi motivation.

In communism only the core ones have knowledge they fight for a dictatorship worship. In Suni Islam they all know it is for the installation of a Kahlif, a sort of force this fascist Obama was certainly seduced by as anyone seeking power.


41 posted on 12/04/2017 1:37:32 AM PST by JudgemAll (Democrats Fed. job-security Whorocracy & hate:hypocrites must be gay like us or be tested/crucifiedc)
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To: Parley Baer

Killing them faster than they can be replaced, may require killing ten’s of millions.

I forget who said “If you are not willing to kill your enemies, and all who stand with them, then you may as well surrender, for you have already lost”, but it’s true.


42 posted on 12/04/2017 1:47:07 AM PST by SauronOfMordor (Socialists want YOUR wealth redistributed, never THEIRS!)
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To: JohnyBoy

During WW2,the left was OK with killing, because we were on the same side as the USSR. It was only when we started fighting communists that the rules started.


43 posted on 12/04/2017 1:52:26 AM PST by SauronOfMordor (Socialists want YOUR wealth redistributed, never THEIRS!)
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To: SauronOfMordor

>During WW2,the left was OK with killing, because we were on the same side as the USSR. It was only when we started fighting communists that the rules started.

Correct. During the Korea war, China would have folded almost immediately if we’d bombed their industry all located in coastal cities well within the range of our bombers. So to save the Truman decided on “Limited War” which just encouraged further communist expansion.


44 posted on 12/04/2017 2:15:56 AM PST by JohnyBoy (The GOP Senate is intentionally trying to lose the majority.)
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To: Rummyfan
There is the peace that comes through capitulation and the peace that come through victory. I choose victory!
45 posted on 12/04/2017 5:12:40 AM PST by enotheisen (CMSGT USAF Ret)
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To: Rummyfan
We can’t kill our way to victory.

Rather dumb statement....I thought that was what war was all about. History has shown that is the only thing a tyrant will yield to!!!

46 posted on 12/04/2017 5:25:34 AM PST by ontap
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To: Paladin2

The first target should be that damn box in Mecca!!!


47 posted on 12/04/2017 5:26:32 AM PST by ontap
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To: BuffaloJack

The JAG attorneys have become the zampolits ?


48 posted on 12/04/2017 5:46:03 AM PST by Fred Hayek (The Democratic Party is now the operational arm of the CPUSA)
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To: Pining_4_TX
institute a pet-the-pig requirement to board a plane or enter a non-Muslim country.


49 posted on 12/04/2017 9:08:24 AM PST by Albion Wilde (I was not elected to continue a failed system. I was elected to change it. --Donald J. Trump)
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To: Albion Wilde

Excellent! :-)


50 posted on 12/04/2017 5:51:01 PM PST by Pining_4_TX (For they sow the wind, and they shall reap the whirlwind. ~ Hosea 8:7)
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To: Albion Wilde

Cheap, low tech, and apparently effective.

What’s not to like?


51 posted on 12/04/2017 9:32:46 PM PST by Ban Draoi Marbh Draoi ( Gen. 12:3: a warning to all anti-semites.)
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To: Albion Wilde

Cheap, low tech, and apparently effective.

What’s not to like?


52 posted on 12/04/2017 9:33:05 PM PST by Ban Draoi Marbh Draoi ( Gen. 12:3: a warning to all anti-semites.)
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To: Rummyfan
Any military leader who says you can't kill your way to victory should be RELIEVED OF DUTY!!!

That's EXACTLY how you win wars! You kill them and destroy their stuff until they absolutely surrender or they're unable to fight any longer.

What kind of new-age fluffery do we have at the heads of our military???

53 posted on 12/04/2017 9:36:46 PM PST by TChris ("Hello", the politician lied.)
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