Posted on 12/03/2017 6:33:12 PM PST by TigerLikesRooster
Ex-NATO commander: North Korea likely getting help with nukes, rockets from China or Russia
Retired Adm. James Stavridis, a former NATO supreme allied commander, in an interview on Sunday said North Korea is likely receiving outside help from allies like China, Russia or Iran as it races to develop its weapons arsenal.
“You’ve got to think that at least part of it is coming from either China or Russia and I have no evidence of that, but the idea that [North Korean leader Kim Jong Un] would simply be developing this on an indigenous basis within his own population of scientists simply seems unlikely given how fast it's moving," Stavridis told radio host John Catsimatidis on AM 970 in New York.
"It could also be cooperation between Iran and North Korea, which we do know has occurred in this nuclear space" Stavridis continued. He added that, "it's fair to say there is some level of outside engagement that has been helpful to [Kim's] program."
Stavridis said China will have to decide whether it is going to stand by or stand up against North Korea as tensions escalate.
"China is going to have to make a choice about whether or not it will continue to align with North Korea or if they will stand with the rest of the global community and stop this. And the best tool they have, John, is they have control over oil going to North Korea. They could stop that economy in a heartbeat. We're going to need to put more pressure on them," he said, adding that "there's about a 10 percent chance" of a war.
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Put out the word, if the norks attack us we’re all going down.
Russia is probably paid handsomely by Iran. The money Obama gave to Iran can do some wonders.
I guess we have gotten too far into the Chinese/globalist tank at this point to reverse course completely...so all he can do is negotiate around it...
Our economy’s numbers domestically are looking good though at least, no? What do you think of the tax bill?
Yep
How do you think Trump is doing by comparison? (With regard to Putin/Russians?)
Its rough when our Western allies haven’t been on top of their game either (or seem outright hostile to us in some instances.)
I think the security organs (led by the likes of McMaster and Mattis whose lectures I have been listening to from before they were appointed) plus Tillerson —> can figure these things out... but Trump is stubborn due to the beef he has with our Western (E.U./NATO) allies, who are outright hostile to him.
Macron in France was nice with the Bastille Day visit...but England wants to ban him from entering period.
Whereas the Chinese, Saudis et al pull out the red carpet...
Putin seems to flatter him.
And Trump prides himself on negotiation. Which is why he wanted someone with unconventional perspectives by his side: like Mike Flynn, Who has proven to be a disaster and thorn.
Flynn has been highly critical of our historic alliances like NATO et al.
A solid fuel, road mobile ICBM with a 150kt thermonuclear warhead is no small achievement.
It took the US and Russia 30 years to get to that point (start point 1950).
Yes, we know the Norklandians did not get there in 20 years without help. It’s inconceivable.
It COULD be done by shipping only people/brains, machine tools, designs and process knowledge to Norklandia.
That way nobody sees major components in shipment.
No opinion of that yet.
You?
If you’re China or Russia, why spend money and treasure directly on destroying America when you can get Fatboi to do it for you?
Good post. Political people need to be reminded of it repeatedly.
This is off topic from article above, but the question about whether the “security organs” in our country get whats going on struck me.
1) First of all, a *United Korea* is not in China or Russia’s interests.
2) I do sometimes think Trump holds out too much with regard to Russia...but I want to backtrack a prior presumption I made about General Flynn. In the little time he served, he did adopt a more traditional, pro-NATO approach to geo-policy.
From google search, I see articles about Flynn having backed Montenegro’s membership to NATO, which would be going against Russia.
3) European allies don’t want Iran deal undone.
4) Trump doesn’t put China/Russia on the spot as much as he can, but sanctions are addressing Russian entities who do business with North Korea. That is encouraging. And I am sure there are economic incentives to entertain for China.
But still...it all boils down to the prospect of a UNITED Korea being what our enemies fear...because the assumption is it will shift Asia closer to USA.
On the northern border is Russia (then the USSR), who also fought with the NOKOs against the UN police action.
Likely the missile tech comes from the Russians who will sell anything to anyone for the right price, like they sold and continue to sell their jet engines to the Chinese.
“From google search, I see articles about Flynn having backed Montenegro’s membership to NATO, which would be going against Russia.”
It’ not in US interests either. Any expansion of NATO is contrary to the interests of the United States.
Nato should be shrunk, not expanded.
At this point I am all for any country who wants to leave Putin’s sphere of influence.
Re: North Korea. The real question of North Korea has to do with who stands to benefit or lose from *reunification* of the two Koreas and the implications such a move would have...or to question whether it is even possible at all at this point even if the regime were to tumble. Sources say it would be more of an ordeal than the reunification between East and West Germany for example.
Some South Koreans don’t want the stress. Especially young ones.
I don’t know of anyone who pines for a Korea reunification.
The US has no interest in that, and South Korea is indifferent, at best.
The only interest the US has in North Korea is to neutralize their nuke capability. Nothing else.
Also, I am not opposed to any country choosing to leave the Russian sphere. That’s between them and Russia.
But I am adamantly opposed to the US being the guarantor of their security.
In all cases.
North Korea’s Missile Success Is Linked to Ukrainian Plant, Investigators Say
The Ukrainian government is a corrupt MESS.
At the grassroots level however, people are waking up. Progress is slow but it begins with tearing down Lenin statues and Soviet monuments. Which Russia dares not do under Putin and North Korea won’t be doing anytime soon either. As both regimes share an affection for Stalin and the Soviet power legacy in common regardless of differences in their current economic systems.
I anti-Putin’s Russia.
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