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To: Bob Celeste

“And her husband did nothing, she never went home and told him? ... if this had happened she would have told her husband...”

It’s common for women to not tell their husbands, or anyone except close friends, about rape. Husbands often blame their wives. Sometimes the marriage suffers forever after. She is often victimized a second time by others because they don’t believe her — a little like what’s going on in some posts here. Sometimes the women weigh their options and decide it’s just not worth it to tell.


21 posted on 11/30/2017 5:46:47 AM PST by MayflowerMadam ( "Freedom is not free; Free men are not equal, and Equal men are not free". Richard Berkeley Cotten)
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To: MayflowerMadam
Absolutely. You are correct. A woman who is assaulted may rightly feel there are few people to turn to. She knows people will blame her for the assault. The perps rely on this guilt to keep women quiet.
35 posted on 11/30/2017 5:55:55 AM PST by SkyPilot ("I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." John 14:6)
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To: MayflowerMadam

“She is often victimized a second time by others because they don’t believe her — a little like what’s going on in some posts here.”

Fifteen years after the deed, with no possibility of refuting an accusation - THAT is victimization. Of men.

I knew a woman who accused a man of raping her just after the Super Bowl. Only a few months had passed. However...it turned out the guy was deployed 10,000 miles away that January. But if she had accused him 15 years later, she could always claim she got the year mixed up, etc.

Make the accusation in a timely manner so it can be investigated. Otherwise it becomes open season on men.


48 posted on 11/30/2017 6:04:42 AM PST by Mr Rogers (Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools)
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To: MayflowerMadam
they don’t believe her — a little like what’s going on in some posts here.

She took her shirt off for him!

85 posted on 11/30/2017 6:41:46 AM PST by Bodleian_Girl (Please see my profile to find out why the Birmingham News is trying to destroy Judge Roy Moore)
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To: MayflowerMadam

Some years back I was out with old friends at a late night diner.

In walked an old friend of some of the guys, I knew him slightly. They ask him over to yak with us.

...where you been? Califorina...what you doing? Prison!

Drunk at a party, car did not start, keys in the next car, drove it home.

He states”I will not J walk or anything that might send me back”.
That bad? His voice trembling” You do what they tell you, or they will kill you”.

Everyone at the table knew what he was saying and looked at their hands.
He had been hurt badly and it was obvious.

I see this as a similar situation.


120 posted on 11/30/2017 7:24:22 AM PST by DUMBGRUNT (This Space for Rent)
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To: MayflowerMadam

“It’s common for women to not tell their husbands, or anyone except close friends, about rape”

If I imagine myself in the same situation this woman claims to have been in, truly non consentual, no culpability her part, my husband would be the first person I’d discuss it with. But then, my husband is my best friend.

And if the guy hadn’t understood my “No” and turned to physical persuasion, he might have some claw marks or maybe a bruise from a high velocity paper weight to back up my story. No job is worth allowing some perv to use you like that. Yuk.


157 posted on 11/30/2017 9:24:41 AM PST by mom of young patriots
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To: MayflowerMadam

Unbuttoning her blouse at Lauer’s suggestion sounds consentual.


177 posted on 11/30/2017 12:58:54 PM PST by Tallguy (Twitter short-circuits common sense. Please engage your brain before tweeting.)
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To: MayflowerMadam

She unbuttoned her blouse when he asked her to, she did not say she said no, or that she didn’t comply. How is that rape?

If she felt she would otherwise lose her job- what job is that critical? That would be prostitution to agree to sex in return for job, or better job. Feminists are supposed to be so independent and strong, yet she just went along with what he wanted?

They both should have been fired for having sex at work. I don’t see rape, or even assault unless she left out the part where she said no, tried to summon help, or fought back. I read nothing about him being armed and threatening her, that is a game changer but nothing about that either.


182 posted on 11/30/2017 1:30:00 PM PST by Tammy8 (Please be a regular supporter of Free Republic !)
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To: MayflowerMadam
She is often victimized a second time by others because they don’t believe her

Sort of like the women victimized by Donald Trump and Roy Moore. Because the woman must ALWAYS be believed; women never lie.

190 posted on 11/30/2017 3:43:28 PM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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