Posted on 11/24/2017 3:27:39 PM PST by little jeremiah
(The following is an open letter to the voters of Alabama from Bill Staehle of Asbury Park, New Jersey.)
I served with Roy Moore in Vietnam in 1971-72, where I knew him to be an altogether honorable, decent, respectable, and patriotic commander and soldier. I have had no contact with him since.
He and I were captains and company commanders in the 504th Military Police Battalion, stationed at the base camp called Camp Land, just west of Danang.
I knew him well in my first four months in-country before I was re-assigned within the battalion to another location. During that time, I grew to admire him.
I am Bill Staehle, residing in Asbury Park, New Jersey. I am an attorney, practicing law continuously for 42-years. I began my career as an assistant United States attorney, and for the past 32 years, I have been the managing trial lawyer for the staff counsel office of a major insurance company.
Allow me to relate to you one experience involving Roy that impressed me.
While in Vietnam, there came a time when another officer invited Roy and me to go with him into town after duty hours for a couple of beers. That officer had just returned from an assignment in Quang Tri Province north of Danang, and we were interested to learn of his experiences.
I had not met him before, and I dont believe Roy had either. On other occasions with other officers, we would go to the officers club at the air force base, but on this occasion, he told us he knew of another place in town.
When we arrived at the place and went inside, it was clear to Roy and me that he had taken us to a brothel. That officer appeared to know people there, as he was greeted by one or two young women in provocative attire.
The place was plush. There were other American servicemen there. Alcohol was being served. There were plenty of very attractive young women clearly eager for an intimate time.
In less time than it took any of the women to approach us, Roy turned to me and said words to this effect, We shouldnt be here. I am leaving.
We told the officer who had brought us that we wanted to leave. He told us to take his jeep and that he could get a ride back later, which he did. Roy and I drove back to camp together.
That evening, if I didnt know it before, I knew then that with Roy Moore I was in the company of a man of great self-control, discipline, honor, and integrity. While there were other actions by Roy that reinforced my belief in him, that was the most telling.
I reject what are obvious, politically motivated allegations against Roy of inappropriate dating behavior. What I saw, felt and knew about him in Vietnam stands in stark contrast to those allegations.
I sincerely doubt that Roys character had changed fundamentally and dramatically in a few short years later. He deserves, in my view, to be heard on the issues that are important to the people of Alabama and our country.
Roy was a soldier for whom I was willing to put my life on the line in Vietnam if the occasion ever arose. Fortunately, it did not.
I was prepared to stand shoulder-to-shoulder with him then, and I am proud to stand by Roy now.
William E. Staehle, Asbury Park, New Jersey
The guys in his unit nicknamed him “Captain America” because of his gung ho attitude and actions.
You’ve met him - that’s interesting. Any personal anecdotes you can relate, post them if you want, and ping me.
I have no idea, but I’d hazard a guess - by 10%.
Actually I meant by 10 points
Johnny Belyeu, Sr. is a former police officer with over two decades of experience with the Etowah County Sheriffs Department and the Gadsden Police Department. He said in a statement, I was an officer with the Etowah County Sheriffs Department in the 1970s, which means I worked in the courthouse and knew who Roy Moore was since he was the Deputy District Attorney at the time. I was a regular customer at Olde Hickory House, and I never once saw Judge Moore come in there. If he had, I would have immediately recognized him. I also never met Beverly Nelson during any of the many times I frequented the restaurant, and I cant say that she even worked there.
Renee Schivera of Huntsville, Alabama stated, I was a waitress at the Olde Hickory House during the summer of 1977, before my senior year of high school. When I heard Beverly Nelsons story, the first thing that stuck out to me was that I dont remember Roy Moore ever coming into the restaurant. I also dont remember her working there. The other thing that struck me as odd is that from my best recollection, the dumpsters were to the side of the building. I just know they were visible from the road, and not back behind the building. But the main thing is that if someone came in almost every night we knew who they were, and I never saw Roy Moore there. As a Christian woman, I wouldnt lie for anyone and I am only sharing what I know because its the truth.
Did you also know he is a graduate of WEST POINT MILITARY?
AND that he has been married to the same woman for 33 years with four adult children and five grand daughters?
The media only wanted to share ‘negative’ stories and dirt on a good and honorable man...so typical of MSM...they FEAR this man...for he will assist our good POTUS, DJT and drain the swamp and stop the money gravy train...
Class and Character in a Military Officer means a lot to this wife of a Veteran ..Roy Moore prove beyond a doubt he has those two characteristics.
Maybe Yaelle has been in California too long..needs a relocation...
I found it interesting because I am sure it was a memory Laura had from childhood, that some girls that young, probably poorer girls with less options, were married off in their early teens, and that she couldnt fathom it at that same age. I do feel that young teen girls as much as they love to play grownup really need some more parenting and nurturing and developing before they become a wife.
I had a grandmother who graduated high school at 16 and married. I know it used to be the norm. Her husband was maybe a year older though.
Are you really that stupid, or are you just pretending?
We’d have gone extinct, were everyone so frail.
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There's a biological reason for this. An older man who wants children would want a wife who was closer to the beginning of her child-bearing years, rather than at the end of her fertile years.
You are correct. Which is why it was traditional that a man gain the approval and agreement of the girl's PARENTS (who presumably WOULD have the wisdom and experience to decide if the man would be good for her) before being allowed to court her and ultimately marry her.
The current trend of women marrying later and later in life (in 1960, the median age of first marriage was 20, now it's 26), and thus having fewer children, is not good for society.
You are probably right. But life is overall longer so I can see how this all came about. Education is lasting forever instead of ending at 17. Older teen boys nor girls are not ready for responsibilities yet. And their parents cant take over running the family compound or farm because they are at work full time still. Its a different world.
You are correct. Which is why it was traditional that a man gain the approval and agreement of the girl's PARENTS (who presumably WOULD have the wisdom and experience to decide if the man would be good for her) before being allowed to court her and ultimately marry her.Today, we have the age of consent as 18. Maybe somewhat arbitrary, but high school girls just dont have enough wisdom and experience to handle what thirty year old men know about sex and human relationships. - Yaelle
The current trend of women marrying later and later in life (in 1960, the median age of first marriage was 20, now it's 26), and thus having fewer children, is not good for society.
Anecdotally, the median age of first marriage seemed even lower than 20 in 1955 - seemed like every female H.S. graduate I knew in the Class of 55 was married before the Class of 56 graduated.Lets face it - homemaker" is a trade traditionally learned under the supervision of a mentor known as Mother. And it is therefore understandable that a girl who expected to follow in her mothers footsteps might consider high school as a social opportunity more than as serious preparation for life. Or was, before women stopped viewing motherhood as their lifes work. That, too, was artificial. The women were subject to arbitrary prejudice in any profession other than teacher or nurse (and the nursing profession itself is not exactly an ancient tradition, tracing back only to the Civil War era). But when there is no distinction between men and women in professions and jobs, and the man has no unique role in the economy and in the family, that creates its own problems.
Add in the occasional girl who is able to start on a Little League team (putting one boy on the bench, and knocking another one off of it) to discourage morale in the median-talented boy (who is not of course permitted to compete on the girls softball team) . . . If neither men nor boys are respected, what do you expect boys to learn? Can you say, inner city? I knew you could.
Youre hitting on a subject Ive always been interested in. Once, it was possible for one member of a married couple to keep the home and care for the kids, on the other members salary. And now, both of the couple are working full time, the house goes empty and neglected, and the kids are raised by day cares and nannies who dont speak English or even very good Spanish. And they call this progression?
What about churches and synagogues? Once, there was mostly male leadership in houses of worship. Then women started taking over, and the men dont feel useful nor welcome. Its kind of creepy to me how feminine the leadership is at reform or other liberal synagogues. Even though I am a woman, I dont like it. Its not a Womens Convention where men can sit in the back. Its phony now.
Sum Ting Wong.
Many churches had to start having women in leadership roles because there were more women congregants than men, or the men refused to serve. If there’s a qualified man who is willing to serve, that’s optimal, but churches are filled with wives whose husbands would rather go hunting or watch tv, than go to church. Same thing in the home. Nothing is more frustrating to a Christian wife, than a husband who refuses to be the spiritual head of the household. SOMEBODY has to lead, and if the man won’t, the woman has to step up.
Which came first, actually: men losing interest in churches, or churches becoming more feminist-oriented, and less fulfilling to the spiritual needs of the men?
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If more men would have been Godly leaders, there wouldn’t have been so many women in leadership roles in churches -—
regular churches, not “Feminist-oriented” churches. Those are a different animal altogether. Those types of churches are usually very liberal, and have evolved into places filled with openly gay men and lesbians, and “free-thinkers”. Read their statements of belief, and they almost always will have rejected The Apostles Creed, or have changed it to fit their apostate beliefs. They’ll also usually qualify the Bible as error-prone, instead of infallible. I’m all for gays and lesbians attending church, as long as the church doesn’t teach that it’s normal to be that way. After all, if only perfect people were welcome, they’d all be empty. I don’t have a problem with women teachers, but I don’t think women should be pastors.
I can remember, as a child, long before the feminist garbage came along, going to an Oral Roberts tent meeting. Mostly women and children present. I also remember visiting churches where few men showed up, as well as those where families, including men, worshipped together. Where I grew up, unchurched people were considered of almost a lower species. But a lot of those church-goers, men and women, went to church for social reasons. Belonging to the right church helped them along in business, kept them in the right crowd, etc. I’m sure there’s still that kind of hypocrisy in many churches, those in which all the leaders are men, as well as those with women in leadership. I just want to go to church where Jesus Christ, and Him crucified, is preached. Everything else is gravy.
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